Wow! Another racial fight.

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What argument am I making? That was another poster who talked about black on white violence not me. The only points I have made to this discussion pertains to the solution, or what I believe to be the solution to the problem. Now YOU are lumping all the posters of this thread into one. I made no such argument. I only stated in the post you copied that violence is everywhere around us. Dictators throughout history have murdered millions and it was NOT for cultural reasons therefore it is a non sequitor to this argument.
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Yep, just as silly as using a subset of blacks and saying "the blacks have a problem"

Edit: not saying that was you, you just started the thread, of course. Just shocking random violence on the site of Matt Drudge.
 
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But being called a Tom is a serious stigma in our community, and once it is put upon u by the right person, it tends to stick.
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You mean like you just did right here?
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As soon West used Obama's middle name in his commentary( a common tactic in the fear mongering of talk radio) , I knew where he was coming from. People do not know the true story of Uncle Tom, so I will not bless him with that moniker, but I will say that Alan West is a lot like Alan Keyes, he knows who butters his bread.
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Yep, just as silly as using a subset of blacks and saying "the blacks have a problem"

Edit: not saying that was you, you just started the thread, of course. Just shocking random violence on the site of Matt Drudge.
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RCG, ALL cultures have problems. Did you hear that? Let me say that again. ALL cultures have problems. So yes, the black community falls under the all. There I go using the ALL context but in this case, I think it's true. Therefor since all cultures have their own problems to deal with, this means the black community is going to have to find a way to deal with this issue. I can assure you one thing, the democratic party has no solution nor does the white community. That leaves them to find a solution.
 
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RCG, ALL cultures have problems. Did you hear that? Let me say that again. ALL cultures have problems. So yes, the black community falls under the all. There I go using the ALL context but in this case, I think it's true. Therefor since all cultures have their own problems to deal with, this means the black community is going to have to find a way to deal with this issue. I can assure you one thing, the democratic party has no solution nor does the white community. That leaves them to find a solution.
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BINGO!
 
Yes genius, and it's not my words I was complaining about. It's your name calling and character attacks. You don't like what I have to say, so you call me names since you're unable to dispute my point. You don't give a shit that whites are being victimized by minorities at much higher rates, you don't care that whites have very legitimate reasons to be afraid and concerned. Instead of acknowledging the facts and admitting there's a problem you want to cry like a little baby and yell "racist" or "stormfront". Why? Probably because you feel that protects you from actually having to have an honest discussion about the issue, which would involve admitting some facts you aren't so comfortable with.

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Oh no Savant no one is forcing their opinion on others, your words are yours, I did not put a single one in your posts.:)
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Of course they vote, but the politicians are under even more pressure than the private individuals to adhere to PC standards. Not to mention people who fund politicians, which is by law public information. So that makes it even MORE impossible for a politician with non PC views to get funding for an election. People couldn't fund such a politician without people saying "racist" or "stormfront".

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Well apparently your silent majority does not vote, for your side is forever complaining about being overrun by liberals. They are everywhere, in the news, in the schools, in political office. Your silent majority is a myth.
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Actually that's incorrect. Blacks commit more violent crime upon white people than they do black people. Not only that, they commit like 14 times more interracial crime.

45% of the time when blacks commit violent crime, white people are the victims; 43% of violent black crime targets other blacks. Compare this to whites, who 3% of their violent crime targets black people.

You are incorrect.

Sorry you were misinformed and got your data incorrect.

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You say ... "Caucasians have every legitimate reason to be upset and concerned about this, and if anyone is racist here, it ain't the white folks."

But from the Department of Justice website you can see white people are victim of crime MOSTLY from the other white people.

And this is not "legitimate reason to be upset" to you?

So yes black people of the USA commit more crime to the % of their population. But this crime is to mostly other black people.

So Savant your try to create fear of black people to white people because you try to say most crime against the white people is from the black people. This is false.
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U know Mav, you are a trader. So you get big, big points for that. I believe you are the real deal. In other words, I respect you.

I don't know what do to do about our subculture. It is encouraged by forces more powerful than the black community combined in this nation, and the black community in this nation is more powerful than other black communities in the world, combined.

Do you have any ideas? I am willing to listen.
 
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Let's walk through possible solutions shall we?

1) Throw billions of dollars at poor black people. That's right, let's just give them billions of dollars and see if it's true that money solves all problems. I suspect this will not work. In my life I have found that money solves little to nothing. Money didn't save Barry Bonds. It didn't help Nic Cage. Money doesn't seem to help lottery winners. Money doesn't seem to help people on Wall St. So I am one to think that just giving poor blacks money will not solve the problem.

2) Gun control. I am one that believes that removing guns from the street only keeps them out of the hands of those dangerous soccer moms and nascar dads. Criminals will always get their guns and they rarely get them legally. Would you want to register your gun if you knew you were going to kill someone with it shortly after?/ Of course not. So gun control doesn't work.

3) Parenting. I've been a big be believer and statistics seems to back me up that there is a strong correlation between children having two parents that are together seems to produce a better more well rounded child. This is true in all communities...white, black, Latino, etc. The black community seems to have a terrible problem keeping families together. A poor black kid without a father in the home is statistically doomed. The same is also true although not to the same extent as whites, Asians and Latinos. This is a cultural issue and the government cannot solve this issue. The black community must recognize this problem and address it.

4) Tougher crime laws? I really don't see this working either. Blacks already have the highest incarceration rates in the country by a mile and we just can't keep building prisons. Sooner or later they are going to get out and if the problem is not solved they will pick up right where they left off.

5) Education. I really believe this is ultimately where the fix has to be. Educated people in general, tend to commit less crimes. Not wealthy people, educated people. The left seems to want to focus solely on class warfare and money but it's not money but one's ability to earn money that makes the difference. The problem is the left doesn't want to address education at the fear of putting teacher unions on the table. You can't address education without addressing the unions and the dept of education and moving to a merit based system. And that is a no go for the left. So the emphasis is just on money and throwing money at the problem after these black kids are already grown up with no skills and no education. I can't think of a worse thing to do with money then throw it at someone with no skills and no education.

So my solutions would be to pull all the money we are using to fund section 8 and ghetto projects and use that money to putting those people trade schools to learn something useful. Fix the school systems. Get rid of the dept of education and use that money to fund adult programs for those already past their prime to teach them some viable skill.

At some point the black community has got to fix their cultural problems of the bringing the family unit back together. I am absolutely convinced if these kids had a father waiting for them at home that their propensity to find trouble would diminish.

Welfare is NOT the answer. Neither is tolerance or understanding. We need to stop making excuses and saying these people don't know any better or don't have a choice. That is a cop out. And stop blaming the rich, the tea party, right wing people, white people, anybody. All problems can be solved from within....ALL.
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RCG, here were my solutions posted several pages back.
 
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