Oh no Savant no one is forcing their opinion on others, your words are yours, I did not put a single one in your posts.
Wow! Another racial fight.
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Oh no Savant no one is forcing their opinion on others, your words are yours, I did not put a single one in your posts.
Well apparently your silent majority does not vote, for your side is forever complaining about being overrun by liberals. They are everywhere, in the news, in the schools, in political office. Your silent majority is a myth.
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Fascinating, Stromfront is trying to build a grassroots movement at ET. This means they are at it at other sites as well. I am impressed, they are tireless.
Why do you continue to push this stormfront angle. You are smarter then that RCG. You and I am sure have met our fair share of racists in life and these guys you are debating with here are not racists. You know that. But when you throw down the stormfront card you destroy any chance of having a civil and intelligent conversation. So why do you do it?
Their information and presentation are dreadfully similar Mav, and I think you are aware of that as well. It is patently unintelligent to use blanket assumptions about a subgroup of an ethnic group, so the intelligent angle is immediately compromised when the terms always and never are used. It shows limited processing skills. Terms like, "the blacks" give a tremendous amount of info about the poster.
Again, using this kind of twisted logic, I could easily make the case that whites are by far and away more violent to non-whites than any other group on the planet. Whites have directly participated in, or orchestrated the murder of more than a million Iraqis alone, and that is just one war, over one time period, which is reported. Historically it is no contest. If we are going to use this line of logic Mav, perhaps is I, who should be afraid, instead of the other way around.
Look, we are all guilty of using the all or none fallacy. I know I do it from time to time even though I make every effort not to. This is an internet message board. You are going to have to deal with bad spelling, bad grammar and yes, poorly constructed arguments. That's part of life.
That does not mean you have the license to bring stormfront into the conversation. It serves no real purpose and you know that is a radical website. We all know what the crime statistics are in this country. There is just a different interpretation into what they really mean.
Now I wrote out a detailed post to you, which you never responded to, giving you what I thought the solutions to this problem are. Maybe read it over again and get back to me.
The fact of the matter is, there is a cultural difference between blacks and whites. Between men and women, Christians and muslims, gays and straights, etc. I believe it's "cultural", not skin color. However skin color in many cases does show strong correlation to the cultural problem.
Now look, you and I both know that the white man is never going to be able to solve whatever cultural problems there are in the black community no more then a muslim is going to fix the cultural problems in the christian community. Change has to come from "inside the community". This is why it always disappoints me to see black leaders and really black people in general refusing to admit there even is a problem.
We need people like you, RCG, to stand up within your own community and address these issues. Not come on here and call everyone a racist and make comments that they are secret members of stormfront. Even if they are racists, it doesn't change the fact of what you need to do. Change has to come from inside RCG. White people have plenty of problems in their own culture they have to fix and they too will have to solve those problems from within their community. That is how change always happens.
Unfortunately the politics of it has always been to blame other cultures for their own problems. It's usually the easiest pill to swallow. It doesn't upset anyone within the community and no blame needs to be given within. The democratic party is not helping the situation by forcing this class warfare down our throats every chance they get.
Go back and read my solution post which you asked me to write. And I look forward to your comments.
Chairman Mao killed 70 million people in China. Whites have certainly NOT killed the most people. Sorry, I had to address this. And at the head of the table of the Iraq war was Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice, two african americans. Not to mention that 20% of our military is black. Please RCG, stop using this argument as to who kills more people. It's silly and counterproductive.
Regrettably Mav, I had nothing to add, as no one said anything that has not been said before, by other blacks. Bill Cosby was the latest attempt. There are many many liberal blacks who can see what Al and Jesse are up to. But being called a Tom is a serious stigma in our community, and once it is put upon u by the right person, it tends to stick.
The solution to an ingrown problem is simply to get away from it, in my opinion. And you make the error of assuming black america has a monolithic culture. That is an exposure issue I would suspect, easily corrected. You will not catch me in Appalachia after dark, and you should not be caught in Watts.
Joe Stalin is a white man, Mav. I was specific, whites have killed, or orchestrated the killing of more non-whites, period. It is as sensible an argument as the one you are attempting to make.
What argument am I making? That was another poster who talked about black on white violence not me. The only points I have made to this discussion pertains to the solution, or what I believe to be the solution to the problem. Now YOU are lumping all the posters of this thread into one. I made no such argument. I only stated in the post you copied that violence is everywhere around us. Dictators throughout history have murdered millions and it was NOT for cultural reasons therefore it is a non sequitor to this argument.