is the washington times a rag or a real paper like the washington post?
http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20051106-102157-9880r.htm
http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20051106-102157-9880r.htm
""In the current issue of City Journal, Theodore Dalrymple concludes a piece on British suicide bombers with this grim summation of the new Europe: "The sweet dream of universal cultural compatibility has been replaced by the nightmare of permanent conflict." That sounds a lot like a new Dark Ages.""Quote from SethArb:
is the washington times a rag or a real paper like the washington post?
http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20051106-102157-9880r.htm
Quote from roberk:
""In the current issue of City Journal, Theodore Dalrymple concludes a piece on British suicide bombers with this grim summation of the new Europe: "The sweet dream of universal cultural compatibility has been replaced by the nightmare of permanent conflict." That sounds a lot like a new Dark Ages.""
Quote from roberk:
""In the current issue of City Journal, Theodore Dalrymple concludes a piece on British suicide bombers with this grim summation of the new Europe: "The sweet dream of universal cultural compatibility has been replaced by the nightmare of permanent conflict." That sounds a lot like a new Dark Ages.""
Take another read- isn't he contrasting a utopian (that has never happened) dream of the future with the nightmare (that has also not yet happened) of conflict.Quote from spect8or:
Permanent conflict? That's a bit over the top. There have barely been enough incidents to qualify as intermittent.
I like Dalrymple, but he's as susceptible to the occasional howler as anyone else.
Quote from TM_Direct:
I disagree strongly...they should not use any force what so ever...I believe they should be talking to the rioters, find out why they are angry and burning buses and people, ...we need to be sympathetic to these people and I think i speak for all of America when I say we are against the use of any force to stop these riots....The UN should be called in to handle this situation, not the French Police
Whatâs really misleading is avoiding the subject of Islam being part of their identity altogether. This is what the Cultural Relativists, the Multiculturalists, and the preachers of âtoleranceâ all do: they avoid the sensitive subjects completely. Thatâs not tolerance; thatâs pure intellectual negligence.Quote from kalashnicac:
Since the beginning of the riots-in fact ever since there has been rioting in these suburbs (which has been one of the unfortunate characteristics of these areas for a long time, let me insist) there has never been any evidence suggesting it is linked primarily to religion. Of course, most rioters are from arab origin and islam is part of their identity, but searching for causes there is simply misleading.
Western politicians have been talking about fighting poverty and discrimination for decades. Providing employment is always good, but itâs pointless when you have open borders and runaway ethnocentric immigrant populations. Itâs also pointless talking about fighting discrimination against Arabs while ignoring the fact that Arabs also discriminate.Quote from kalashnicac:
This isn't even an opinion, I am merely echoing the politicians (of all mainstream political groups), journalists, policemen, representatives and sometives even relatives of these "youths" causing trouble. The prime minister (conservative BTW) has just announced he is going to implement a series of measures to reduce employment and poverty in these suburbs and fight discrimination. Not once has he mentioned islamism. Islam is a threat to France as to all western countries at the moment, but not 14 to 20 year old idiots setting fire to cars that belong to their neighbours, or buses that are being used by their parents to go to work (!).
Palestine vs. Israel is a smoke screen; Islamic cultures vs. Western society is not.Quote from kalashnicac:
So all of those in this thread who have been moving the debate to islam vs westerners (or palestine vs israel) are simply missing the point and seriously digressing. Arab minorities and their assimilation in western countries is what' we should be talking about. Anyway, never mind.