Why Paris is burning

Quote from sputdr:

How about 10,000 people dying in a heatwave?

11 days of riots.

Haven't created a job since sometime in the mid 70's.

I speak of France and Germany.
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The way the US dealt with the hurricanes indeed gave an idea of what a strong state can do.

Look there is no point in saying US is superior to Europe or the other way round, you'll always find valid arguments in either way.
 
Quote from maxpi:

Ha Ha!! You think you speak for all America. Maybe you are the true representative of the people and should do a power grab??
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lol TM makes it sound like some kind of civil war...
 
Quote from sputdr:

What the european gov'ts dont understand is that there is a good portion of the muslim population that DOESN'T want to be apart of their society, they want everyone to convert to their idea.

Therein lies the problem.
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Aren't you just a bit paranoid?
 
Quote from kalashnicac:

The way the US dealt with the hurricanes indeed gave an idea of what a strong state can do.

Look there is no point in saying US is superior to Europe or the other way round, you'll always find valid arguments in either way.
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As opposed to how europe handled the heatwave?

How many died over the last 2 summers 10,000-20,000 people?

Yes, the United States needs help.
 
Quote from kalashnicac:

Of course, most rioters are from arab origin and islam is part of their identity, but searching for causes there is simply misleading.
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There must be some really uninformed leaders to have to issue a Fatwa for something that is simply "imagined" by the whole world.

This, of course, means that there will no longer be any more suicide bombings in Israel and around the world. It is a day to mark on our calendars. The "Religion of Peace" has found peace through a Fatwa.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/06/france.riots.fatwa.reut/

"It is formally forbidden to any Muslim seeking divine grace and satisfaction to participate in any action that blindly hits private or public property or could constitute an attack on someone's life," the fatwa said.
 
But, here is part II.

"Contributing to such exactions is an illicit act," declared the edict, which said it was applicable to "any Muslim living in France, whether a citizen or a guest of France."

It was always just wishful thinking.

Current World Jihad status:

FRANCE - No Jihad per issued temporary Fatwa. Check local imams
daily for Jihad reinstatement date.

SPAIN: Silent stealth Jihad.

U.S.A.: Silent stealth Jihad.

Saudia Arabia: Silent stealth Jihad.

Indonesia: Silent stealth Jihad.

Israel: Silent stealth Jihad.

England: Silent stealth Jihad.

Iraq: Silent stealth Jihad.

Iran: Silent stealth Jihad.

etc.
 
Quote from Sam123:

What’s really misleading is avoiding the subject of Islam being part of their identity altogether. This is what the Cultural Relativists, the Multiculturalists, and the preachers of “tolerance” all do: they avoid the sensitive subjects completely. That’s not tolerance; that’s pure intellectual negligence.

Western politicians have been talking about fighting poverty and discrimination for decades. Providing employment is always good, but it’s pointless when you have open borders and runaway ethnocentric immigrant populations. It’s also pointless talking about fighting discrimination against Arabs while ignoring the fact that Arabs also discriminate.

The politicians and the mainstream political groups have been carefully conditioned to keep political Islam out of the discussion completely. Of course the politicians are the last to know. If they were allowed to discuss how Muslim societies tick, they would have taken better care of their immigration policies a very long time ago, so they can integrate the amounts they can handle into French society.

It’s ironic how Western leaders and thinkers are constantly accused of not understanding Muslims, while at the same time they are not allowed to discuss it.

Palestine vs. Israel is a smoke screen; Islamic cultures vs. Western society is not.

When this is all said and done, the leaders will listen to the same arguments coming from the same people: France is intolerant and fails to integrate Muslims because they banned the headscarf; France has all these white people staffing their government; these poor kids were torching cars because they can’t even find a piece of bread to eat. And so on and so on.; all the stuff that justifies the riots and encourages further ethnocentrism and classism among the rioting youth, who are once again enabled and justified for their bad behavior.
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Sigh...your opinion is scary, thank god we don't get too many people like you in Europe.

I won't argue with your opinions (I suggest you have a chat with a few westernised muslims to have their point of view).

However I will point out where you are wrong about FACTS-so that at least you argue with points that are factually valid:

-do not forget that most of the French muslims arrived when the French NEEDED them for their economy. Immigration in itself over the past few years is unsignificant when compared to the number of guys that are the 2nd and 3rd generations.

-headscarf (not arguing against you on this one, just clearing things up): the law banning ANY religious sign in school is very old (beginning of the 20th century, when there were virtually no muslims in France). Everybody seems to believe it's just been enacted recently or something. In fact, it was originally put in place to counter the influence of the French catholic church in schools. So you're not allowed to where a cross around your neck in schools either ! You may want to link it to French intolerance towards religions (which personally I am quite satisfied with), but not against muslims in particular. Now you are right to say there is discrimination in French society, but you won't be able to find me one intolerant law ! This is what muslims from other countries have to understand-unfortunately they change it into a proof of intolerence.

-who's justifying the youths' behaviour? There is a difference between understanding and justifying.
 
Quote from kalashnicac:

lol TM makes it sound like some kind of civil war...
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Uhmmmmm....Let me try this again...

I disagree strongly...they should not use any force what so ever...I believe they should be talking to the rioters, find out why they are angry and burning buses and people, ...we need to be sympathetic to these people and I think i speak for all of America when I say we are against the use of any force to stop these riots....The UN should be called in to handle this situation, not the French Police ...

This was a heavy does of sarcasm.....I will make sure in the future that i use smile faces ...:p :D ....When i am poking fun at another government...for those of you who got my tongue in cheek response...thank you...thank you very much...I will be in town till thursday, you've been a wonderful audience...oh wait...:p :p
 
Quote from Bruto Blukowski:

But, here is part II.

"Contributing to such exactions is an illicit act," declared the edict, which said it was applicable to "any Muslim living in France, whether a citizen or a guest of France."

It was always just wishful thinking.

Current World Jihad status:

FRANCE - No Jihad per issued temporary Fatwa. Check local imams
daily for Jihad reinstatement date.

SPAIN: Silent stealth Jihad.

U.S.A.: Silent stealth Jihad.

Saudia Arabia: Silent stealth Jihad.

Indonesia: Silent stealth Jihad.

Israel: Silent stealth Jihad.

England: Silent stealth Jihad.

Iraq: Silent stealth Jihad.

Iran: Silent stealth Jihad.

etc.
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Perfect example of paranoia. I like the "silent stealth"-it sounds really scary, there's a nice aliteration to it. "silent stealth jihad"-good catch phrase, great imapct, I could easily see it as a headline of some newspaper.

My poor friend, you won't convince many people in Europe about the silent stealth jihad threat.
 
Quote from kalashnicac:

Perfect example of paranoia. I like the "silent stealth"-it sounds really scary, there's a nice aliteration to it. "silent stealth jihad"-good catch phrase, great imapct, I could easily see it as a headline of some newspaper.
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I will stick with my slogan. You can plan your choice of words for describing the Muslims who commit the next terrorist attack.

Here is a headline that is sure to disappoint you:

POLICE say they have foiled a large scale terrorist attack in Australia following the arrest of at least 17 people in raids in Sydney and Melbourne early today.

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,17176801-5001021,00.html


The list gets longer:
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Australia: Silent stealth Jihad.
 
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