Why creation science is an oxymoron

jem · Feb 13, 2010

Quote from stu:

But you do seem to imagine religious belief is a free pass card allowing the rejection of definitions or reason to get all testy when ignoring the fact there are conventions in this world.

As well as from yourself, there is some of that rejection from one of your own "we" people , who only make up argument through the way theism ever defends its beliefs, arguing from absurd, contradictory, unsupported and dishonest standpoints. As witnessed in this thread and many others like it.

Jem states
So if you have no belief you are not an atheist.

Do you agree?
If so, what is the label supposed to be for someone who has no beliefs ?

It cannot be agnostic , without as you frikin say, "ignoring the fact there are conventions in this world."

Can you explain without getting all testy? Or is the definition to be "turd" as Jem likes to call anyone, when he cannot grasp the meaning of something.

I call someone a turd when they bring my name up as they b.s.

hermit · Feb 13, 2010

Quote from Index piker:

1) I'm not angry. I think he's an asshole. I'm pretty much coming to the same conclusion about you.

2) Yes, what would jesus say to kts?

Are you saying Jesus would call someone an asshole?

killthesunshine · Feb 13, 2010

what rock did XXX777 crawl i=under

OPTIONAL777 · Feb 13, 2010

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killthesunshine · Feb 13, 2010

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Longshot is Tooter Turtle...

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why not just admit you are possibly wrong rather than submit your this obvious nonsense .. let;s explore your folly together , may the most rational man win

killthesunshine · Feb 13, 2010

Quote from Index piker:

Concerning the existence God I fall in the belief section but agnostic because it does not include the "knowledge" section also.

what? where are you falling? and why is falling more truth than considered reason ?

stu · Feb 13, 2010

Quote from Index piker:

Everybody here knows your pathetic ruse of "no belief" as if it meant a "null belief" is bullshit.

It's certainly clear by now you have a belief system but wish to portray it as not having any beliefs on the subject; and thereby insulating yourself from criticism .

To me that's just a little bit pussfied.

Now, on your behavior towards others here on the board who do man up and admit a belief (unlike you) your actions are clearly antagonistic towards anyone of belief.

Your vehemence is well demonstrated ,shall I call it "antagonistic belief" and expect it in the next edition of the dictionary?

Therefore your behavior noted above by jem has labeled you a "turd" which evidently does not please you.
As far as I'm concerned he's been rather magnanimous in his description of you.

GOOD DAY

Look at yourself, instructing me what to think, and in red no less, what my own no belief is. As if it is meant to be a null belief, when I have no such belief at all.
Shall I tell you what to think and what to believe and what that means ? Do you imagine for 1 minute that would be reasonable? So what delusion makes you believe you can tell me. The delusion of Religious belief?

"I know what belief is and I have a general idea what you consider evidence".
Obviously you don't know what no belief is or means, with or without evidence. You clearly don't listen for evidence. Religious belief is all about leaving a mind closed in its own pre-conclusions.

But no matter what, you just can't make people have a belief when they simply don't have one .
Not even able to grasp the fundamental obviousness of that, you're desperately trying to tell me what I mean !

Apparently going by the angry and abusive tone you use, you hate it ! It seems you cannot stand someone being free from the absurdity of your belief as it is depicted..
So much so " you get all testy."

One can always tell how some theists conduct themselves, by the desperate accusations they make against others who disagree with them.

stu · Feb 13, 2010

Quote from jem:
I call someone a turd when they bring my name up as they b.s.

Then you'd better call Index puker a turd. He brought your name up.

Index piker · Feb 13, 2010

Quote from stu:

Obviously you don't know what no belief is or means, with or without evidence. You clearly don't listen

Then here's an opportunity to describe your belief in detail, lets hear it?

OPTIONAL777 · Feb 13, 2010

Apparently it takes mucho effort to deny willfully you have beliefs in non God...

"free from the absurdity of your belief as it is depicted."

If that were even close to true, you would not have to go to such lengths to deny you own beliefs or attack the beliefs of others...as long as you need to defend your own beliefs to others so voraciously, you are not even close to being free of the beliefs of others...

Look I am fine with you being delusional and proffering up believing you have no beliefs...it just isn't true, and you know it...

Quote from stu:

Look at yourself, instructing me what to think, and in red no less, what my own no belief is. As if it is meant to be a null belief, when I have no such belief at all.
Shall I tell you what to think and what to believe and what that means ? Do you imagine for 1 minute that would be reasonable? So what delusion makes you believe you can tell me. The delusion of Religious belief?

"I know what belief is and I have a general idea what you consider evidence".
Obviously you don't know what no belief is or means, with or without evidence. You clearly don't listen for evidence. Religious belief is all about leaving a mind closed in its own pre-conclusions.

But no matter what, you just can't make people have a belief when they simply don't have one .
Not even able to grasp the fundamental obviousness of that, you're desperately trying to tell me what I mean !

Apparently going by the angry and abusive tone you use, you hate it ! It seems you cannot stand someone being free from the absurdity of your belief as it is depicted..
So much so " you get all testy."

One can always tell how some theists conduct themselves, by the desperate accusations they make against others who disagree with them.