Why creation science is an oxymoron

[bigarrow]

Quote from hermit:

You just want to make this into a semantics fest. I am asking what exactly is an atheist denying and you introduce a double bind like this was a political debate.

777 wants atheist to say that there is a god and that the atheist rejects god. All his talk is just bullshit rhetoric to get to this point of his. Then he will have another argument among theist about why his god is the real god. 777 is the sadsack theist.

 

[stu]

Quote from Index piker:
stu no need to get all stewed about it.

I mean just because you can't man up and admit that you have a
belief system does not mean you have to get all PMS about it.

Of course that doesn't preclude every rational reader of the thread from knowing you are FOS, and that you do have a set of beliefs , although you go to extreme lengths to deny it.

Keep on pretending your beliefs are not on display stu.

Quote from Index piker:

No belief about what?

Brilliant argument you have there. You tell me I have a set of beliefs then all you can do is wonder what I have no belief about.
You can't tell me what those set of beliefs are that you tell me I have and can't make me have them, so you're still confused about what it is I have no belief of.

Apparently that upsets you, why? Is it the sheer ridiculousness of what you landed yourself in, or because you cannot make people have belief where they have non.

Quote from FeenixRizin:
good god I hate you fucking people, evil little fucking bastards you are

You have no comment for that particular religious thought but decide it's me getting all "PMS".
One thing you do get right is the making of a lot of irrational statements and conclusions



The inevitable standpoint of religious argument wherever it is made, is a desperate attempt to turn rational things on their head, to uselessly and dishonestly argue from the point of absurdity as if it made perfect sense.

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

It is not a semantics issue at all.

It is impossible to know someone's motive, yet it exists. Love is an inner quality, not something that is known with the senses.

Actions can be measured, but not someone's intent. Every day on TV or the movies we see actor pretending to feel, to be in love with someone else, etc...when it is just an act, i.e. not genuine.

Plenty of things exist in our lives that cannot be measured or known to be true with scientific instrumentation...

Your reasoning is so naive and specious. Foolish of you to invoke a spirit every time you cannot explain some phenomenon.

"It turns out that we can predict quite well which of these eight tasks they are doing," he said. "If we were just guessing, we would get it right about 13 percent of the time. We get it right about 80 percent of the time with our statistical tool. It's not perfect, but it is quite good — but not nearly good enough to be admissible in court, for example.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090723082427.htm


Do YOU see a pattern developing here? Each time you point to some as of yet unexplained PHYSICAL phenomenon for your spiritual belief, you move on pointing to another as yet unexplained physical phenomena as each in turn is ultimately explained.
FOOL

 

[killthesunshine]

the refuge of the spiritual is that anything is possible. let me clue you anything is NOT possible, and it gets worse yet not PROBABLE ..that's BS

 

[bigarrow]

2 Kings 2:22-24. And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

Quote from killthesunshine:

the refuge of the spiritual is that anything is possible. let me clue you anything is NOT possible, and it gets worse yet not PROBABLE ..that's BS

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from bigarrow:

2 Kings 2:22-24. And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

what happened?

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from killthesunshine:

what happened?

I thought it was a humorous verse, thought I'd post it for a laugh. Out of the blue. Not everyone always gets my sense of humor.

 

[hermit]

Quote from bigarrow:

2 Kings 2:22-24. And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

George Costanza?

 

[Index piker]

Mainstream psychology and related disciplines have traditionally treated belief as if it were the simplest form of mental representation and therefore one of the building blocks of conscious thought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief

Maybe stu really is honest when he says he has "no beliefs".

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from bigarrow:

2 Kings 2:22-24. And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

LOL

This being a census year, I found the following absurdity appropriate:

2 Samuel 24:1-25

God Kills 70,000 Israelites because King David took a census ... that God ordered him to take! :eek: