Why Can't I Trade with the Trend

Quote from NickelScalper:

What you're saying is that you can tell when the market will reverse, but you can't give a minimum difference in price between the reversal point and the end of the following trend. In other words, you're not saying anything at all.

What I am saying is that if one knows WHEN the price will be on reversal level, then one does not have to know WHAT that price will be , price is not important .
 
Quote from easyrider:

'But I dont see any entries or exits on it.


sorry, only 2 hands. I'm a nasty imaginary trend trader. Trades in direction of trend. Those HL are support failures into the trend. Pull your own trigger.
 
What harm is there is posting your entries after the fact? Have you made any trades this morniing? I shorted ym at 10814 at 9:59:57and took a two tick loss then went long at 10817 at 10:31:29 and was stopped out on a trailing stop at 10822. See. its easy. Im just trying to get some idea of where your coming from.
 
Quote from Grob109:

There are a lot of transformations in mathemetics. Mostly they do not, however, cross the line that bounds the specialty.

A simple but powerful one can transform calculus into algebra, do operations in algebra, and thence back again to state the solution. (L transforms).

My experience was to learn in college and grad school that paying my way totally with up to three side jobs on a full schedule and cutting back to two meals a day for 6 years, was not a way to gain finacial wealth but only the practical knowledge that there was a better way to make money than working for it. I learned to use money as a commodity for making money.

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So making money comes down to finding a simple construct that allows continuous and rapid transfer of capital from a deep resource to a small group who use transformations that are kindred to the transformation of capital from one place to another.

The operating point is not an operating point ; use the math of SM as an example. There are no continuous functions. Again SM is appropriate.

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So it comes down to understanding that each time shell (fractal) has its own performance and space within which price moves (makes money). There are seven that the market dictates. All separated by a roughly constant value (multiplier) that is dictated by cultural habits installed over centuries. We have a convention of short term intermediate term and long term. Trends overlap in each of these. Logically thee are times when reversals are compounded up to three simultaneous events at one moment. this is when hitting a home run begins, naturally. Most people do not know when the bases are being run as you all now see since I have mentioned it to you for the first time in your life.

Marginal analysis drives making money. Having seven fractals whose boundaries are containers for price. Smartgirl speculated heavily on the broader distributions of capital that are possible between roll overs of the commodities.

By choosing to operate in high money velocities and be in the market continually, marginal analysis gives incredible yields.

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The maths of the matter are to take concepts of continuous functions and apply them in a statistical context of market data. This application is made in the field of human psychological behavior (a field in which I lecture). The maths requirements boil down to what a human calculator can do with aids that are functional for him in real time.

there is only one market relationship that is needed. It was conceived soon after the DOW work was done. Having this P. V relationship dictated by the market (how else?) and having human limitations in a psychological context, then there is nothing to do but observe, annotate ASAP and make decisions.

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You MUST observe the correct information of the market's choosing in a fractal of the market's choosing. Anything you choose is arbitrary and wrong. what you choose will be based upon convenience of some sort and is simply an intellectual laziness on your part. if you read posts about edges coming and going they are just statements of arbitrariness and laziness.

ASAP is the key to annotating. You annotate and extend the lines into the future as a container of price and volume action. A principle of physics also applies to human nature. Read Newton, Napier, and Peanuts. So we focus on circumstance and look for change of circumstance. This is all NOW oriented.

The P, V relationship determined by the market dictates Gausian curves for the human factor called volume. after all, don't all human aspects of things come down to a Gausian world. How natural that Gausian stuff comes from field theory.

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Quite right. There are much better ways to make money than working for it.

I granted this to myself one afternoon after three days with no sleep immersed in the work of Fourier and painting continuous functions without a brush. The market was the obvious choice.
 
Quote from easyrider:

What harm is there is posting your entries after the fact? Have you made any trades this morniing? I shorted ym at 10814 at 9:59:57and took a two tick loss then went long at 10817 at 10:31:29 and was stopped out on a trailing stop at 10822. See. its easy.


I didn't take any trades this morning. I had 2 student calls this morning. Right now I'm watching the 1209.75 top. If it fails to breach I'll short to challenge 1202.50. If it breaches, I wait till the failure of support to go long. I trade to profit, not trade to trade.
 
Quote from ProfLogic:

I think I understand your question.

The HH, HL, LL or LH's are determined and confirmed at oscillation tops & bottoms. Comparing extreme tops to extreme tops & extreme bottoms to extreme bottoms for the overall trend and minor tops and bottoms for trading opportunities between the extremes.
I'm chewing on it. thanks.
 
Quote from ProfLogic:

I didn't take any trades this morning. I had 2 student calls this morning. Right now I'm watching the 1209.75 top. If it fails to breach I'll short to challenge 1202.50. If it breaches, I wait till the failure of support to go long. I trade to profit, not trade to trade.

Thank you. At what point would you consider it a failure to breach? We just had a LH. Both of my trades were from signals too, by the way.
 
Quote from Walther:

What I am saying is that if one knows WHEN the price will be on reversal level, then one does not have to know WHAT that price will be , price is not important .
If a "trend" does not extend over a minimum range of price, then it can't be distinguished from background noise.
 
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