Why Can't I Trade with the Trend
- Thread starter Flashboy
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Quote from kut2k2:
I can't wait to see the evidence you have to support this claim. What's that? You don't have any? Yeah, I figured.
We will never see any evidence, no sane person will ever share their master trading techniques with the public. Never.Its about money, man, you understand, mothafucking money.
Kill all the proffessors. Randomness sucks.
Quote from austinp:
not true on two counts
#1: Revealing any true indicator or solid method approach never diminishes its effectiveness one iota, not one smidgeon, not one drop. The idea that someone's "edge" can be negated by public revelation is just an oft-repeated fallacy.
#2: Trend-following indicators exist, they are effective and they can be part of a true cash-collecting machine. BUT the operator of that machine MUST be able to overcome their strong instinct = desire to fade the indicator and counter-trend trade.
Buying into a decline or selling into a rally are the stronger human tendencies than following a known, trusted trend filter tool. So basic human nature itself protects any true trend-following tools or methods by human flawed design
What an honor it is to have you break away from your busy schedule of charging $2497 a head for your "in-depth" trading seminar to do some pro-bono work here. Job well done!
To answer the thread starter's question:
Charge $2497 a head for trading seminars...and you won't have to trade in the first place!
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The longer the trend the better
, BigBAs far as the gentlemen writing most daytraders trade countertrend;
that would mean going long in a bear market
Sure Another 6 or 7 year helpful suggestion,to op;
keep records of many trades, going long in a bear trend [downtrend.]
A more interesting question here would be "Is it more profitable to just Hold with the trend (solely on daily chart) Or trade with the trend (say trade in/out based on 4hr chart but Only in direction of daily chart)?"
Maybe the more experienced traders can explain their views based on P/L, equity curve.
Maybe the more experienced traders can explain their views based on P/L, equity curve.
Quote from virtualmoney:
A more interesting question here would be "Is it more profitable to just Hold with the trend (solely on daily chart) Or trade with the trend (say trade in/out based on 4hr chart but Only in direction of daily chart)?"
Maybe the more experienced traders can explain their views based on P/L, equity curve.
Hi,
you ve answered your question by yourself.
Of course it is more profitable to do more trades in a specific time, than just one. Trade the trend moves + the counter trend moves,
trend moves gives you more profits rearding to risk/win ratio, but counter trend trades are still extremely profitable.
And the other factor is, you can always leverage up your risk + win, by your growing trading capital. --- Than just have one trade all the time in the major trend direction. You should that do too, beside that shorter time trades stuff.
Combination of styles is the answer, be independent so you can change your positions when ever you want.
Besides that, there is not only 1 product to trade, you can choose form all the beautiful markets, and buy and sell, how you think its best for growing your capital, depending on the time factor - "How long do you want to wait, to make this or that sum of money" !!!
Plan the trade & trade the plan
Greetings