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Correct.

They are not on our side yet we are funding them so they can serve as a forum to work their own agendas. Thank you for making that point. They are not an ally.

Oh, but watch your ilk, go bonkers if we talk about cutting their funding.

We kind of agree the UN is not very useful. It should just be moved to Saudi Arabia as that is the region where it barely even useful. It is not a place where western interests are promoted. I’m not a big fan.
 
Well I got to say you are smarter than Donald Trump. However, most nato allies are on track to meet that obligation and France is close, Germany has a way to go. NATO is by far the most important alliance to global security. However, I will buttress your point that if NATO nations had been spending more, Russia wouldn’t be able to globe trot the way it does because it would have to focus on home.

So kumbaya.
I made the mistake of taking your question seriously. What does on "track mean?" A vague promise of future spending?
Unfortunately for you, you aren't smarter than Trump.

You couldn't post a response without an insult. Just because you cannot refute my statement, doesn't mean you have to throw your shit, pajama boy. Pure Omega defeatist behavior. Very disappointing. You lose again.
 
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I made the mistake of taking your question seriously. What does on "track mean?" A vague promise of future spending?
Unfortunately for you, you aren't smarter than Trump.

You couldn't post a response without an insult. Just because you cannot refute my statement, doesn't mean you have to throw your shit, pajama boy. Pure Omega defeatist behavior. Very disappointing. You lose again.

You’re obviously still sore but you will heal one day. We will pick up when you feel better.
 
ever since the 1960s the record is not good. It might pay to explore why that is the case.

So what are you saying.........that the preservation of south korea was originally good but when Trump is in power....the hell with them...it must be bad?

Okay. got it.

Note further, that the collapse of the soviet union was since the 1960's and required massed military power on our part even if "unused". Although I realize that your ilk may still be wistful for those days. Not to worry. Bernie is there for you.
 
NATO is by far the most important alliance to global security.

As Obama famously retorted to Romney "the 1980's called and want their foreign policy back." Or something like that.

NATO was important in the 1950's and had some relevance maybe through the '80's. Now it is an excuse for military brass and assorted hangers-on to live the high life in Europe and to piss away huge amounts of money on defense contractors.

Why should we be spending vast sums to protect Europe from a soviet invasion when the soviet union no longer exists and Europe is feverishly trying to destroy itself through unchecked immigration? Let Europe worry about itself and bring our troops home and put them on the southern border until an adequate wall is constructed.
 
As Obama famously retorted to Romney "the 1980's called and want their foreign policy back." Or something like that.

NATO was important in the 1950's and had some relevance maybe through the '80's. Now it is an excuse for military brass and assorted hangers-on to live the high life in Europe and to piss away huge amounts of money on defense contractors.

Why should we be spending vast sums to protect Europe from a soviet invasion when the soviet union no longer exists and Europe is feverishly trying to destroy itself through unchecked immigration? Let Europe worry about itself and bring our troops home and put them on the southern border until an adequate wall is constructed.


Boggles the mind to think that the overthrow of Libya- ie. Hillary's and Obama's personal and illegal war- was actually a NATO operation.
 
So what are you saying.........that the preservation of south korea was originally good but when Trump is in power....the hell with them...it must be bad?

I think you are replying to someone I have blocked but this is a fair question and a tough one.

South Korea is the poster child of decades of US over-reaching. I will assume the original mission there was justified. I see no reason at all we should have stayed for another 65 years, with US troops at risk as a tripwire. South Korea is a rich, industrialized country that routinely takes advantage of us in trade matters. They are perfectly capable of providing for their own defense. They want it both ways though. They don't want to do anything that might disrupt their cozy lives, but they are ok with exposing us to a nuclear attack.

I am having trouble seeing the MAGA in that.
 
According to the NYT
Here4money... cue the video.

And according to the media, Sessions was supposed to be gone back in Feb. How did that turn out? The New York Slimes is filled with leftwing back-benchers with an agenda. I don't believe anything they say until I actually see it. James Comey said during Congressional testimony that the New York Slimes is fake news.
 
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