Special counsel is investigating President Trump for obstruction of justice, new report says

piezoe said:
This is not quite correct in my personal opinion. The first part is correct however do not make the mistake of assuming that Trumps detractors. such as myself, are not aware of this. We recognize that criticism of Trump only strengthens the allegiance of his followers.

The second part is incorrect in serious ways. Trumps support has actually, according to the most recent professional polls, has declined a bit. In the election just past, the Democrats ran an unpopular candidate against Trump and yet he still lost the popular vote by a wide margin. He barely squeaked out, by the slimmest of margins, a victory in the Electoral college. (He lied about that of course!)

If the current opinion trend does not change rather dramatically between now and Fall of 2018, we can expect Democratc gains in both the House and Senate. It is possible that that the House will be in contol of the Democrats come January 3rd of 2019. November of 2020 is still a long ways off, but at present I'd want extremely favorable odds to but any money at all on Trumps re-election.
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You are entitled to your opinion. I don't think even The Pope would have won any neighborhood council election if the media would have spent billions of dollars and thousands of hours discrediting everything they could probably find.

Remember that polls put Hillary at a 98% chance of winning the presidency. I would not count on opinion polls. Even though it seems Trump now does.

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piezoe said:
The second part is incorrect in serious ways. Trumps support has actually, according to the most recent professional polls, has declined a bit. In the election just past, the Democrats ran an unpopular candidate against Trump and yet he still lost the popular vote by a wide margin. He barely squeaked out, by the slimmest of margins, a victory in the Electoral college. (He lied about that of course!)
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See, this is the type of misrepresentation that pisses the rest of us off. Trump didn't lie about this, he said he won the popular vote when you strip out the millions of illegals that voted. There's no way to know whether this is true or not, even though it is almost certainly not true. You can say Trump is clueless. You can say it was an asinine statement. You can say he is out of touch and I wouldn't argue with any of that. But when he said he won the popular vote, he put a stipulation on it that was, in my opinion, borderline insane. But it wasn't a lie.

It's like me saying to you I can jump twenty feet in the air, and you telling me that's impossible and I'm lying, so I amend my claim with "....on a trampoline made of rubber bands. "
 
Optionpro007 said:
You are entitled to your opinion. I don't think even The Pope would have won any neighborhood council election if the media would have spent billions of dollars and thousands of hours discrediting everything they could probably find.

Remember that polls put Hillary at a 98% chance of winning the presidency. I would not count on opinion polls. Even though it seems Trump now does.

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Polls did not put Hillary at a 98% chance of winning,polls do not make odds.Polls predict who will get the most votes and Hillary got more votes as the polls said she would, 3 million more votes.

I see Rasmussen is at it again.Other polls have Trump 34-42 but of course Rasmussen finds a way to give Trump an extra ten points from the poll averages.

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Tony Stark said:
Polls did not put Hillary at a 98% chance of winning,polls do not make odds.
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Whatever. Either way the 98% probability was floated around. That is not 60 or 70%, it's 98%.
Accordingly, polls suggested a Hillary win. They were flat wrong then. Why would they be right now?

But this discussion is meritless. Trump won, and he is the President.
 
Optionpro007 said:
Whatever. Either way the 98% probability was floated around. That is not 60 or 70%, it's 98%.
Accordingly, polls suggested a Hillary win. They were flat wrong then. Why would they be right now?

But this discussion is meritless. Trump won, and he is the President.
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Yes the 98% probability was floated around,but not by polls,thats not what they do.The polls were not flat out wrong,they were absolutely right just as they are likely right now as polls show the will of the people not the electoral college
 
exGOPer said:
Setting up the narrative to fire Rosenstein so he can hire someone who will fire Mueller
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http://thehill.com/policy/national-...knowledged-possibility-of-recusal-from-russia



Deputy AG says he may have to recuse himself from Russia probe: report

By Max Greenwood - 06/16/17 10:54 AM EDT

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has privately told colleagues that he may have to recuse himself from the special counsel investigation of Russia's meddling in the 2016 presidential election, ABC News reported Friday.

Rosenstein was charged with overseeing the probe after he took office in April because Attorney General Jeff Sessions had recused himself from the matter amid revelations that he failed to disclose to the Senate two meetings with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

The deputy attorney general eventually appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to lead the Russia investigation after Trump fired FBI Director James Comey.

Rosenstein has said that he will allow Mueller to conduct an independent investigation free of political influence.

Rosenstein had authored a memorandum the White House said justified firing Comey, citing the former top cop's handling of the bureau's investigation into Hillary Clinton's email use. Trump later revealed that he had made the decision to oust Comey without Rosenstein's recommendation and instructed the deputy attorney general to build a case for firing him.
In a recent meeting with Associate Attorney General Rachel Brand, Rosenstein said that she would have to step in to take his place at the held of the probe if he were to have to recuse himself.

The news that Rosenstein spoke with Brand about the possibility of recusing himself followed a Friday morning tweet by Trump, in which he acknowledged that he was "being investigated for firing the FBI Director by the man who told me to fire the FBI Director."

While it was not immediately clear who exactly Trump was referring to, the tweet appeared to be directed at Rosenstein. Mueller, in fact, is the special counsel actually investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

The tweet came as Mueller's investigation appears to be widening in scope. The Washington Post reported Wednesday that it currently includes a probe into whether Trump himself attempted to obstruct justice. Another report on Thursday revealed that the special counsel was also looking into the financial dealings of Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and a senior White House adviser.
 
Frederick Foresight said:
Even though he said on TV that he fired Comey principally because of the Russia investigation. Must be tough corralling and keeping track of all the lies.
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Doesn't matter to his base though, he is lying to keep them in line as they will because truth and reason is Anti-MAGAing
 
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