Scientists warn the sun will 'go to sleep' in 2030 and could cause temperatures to plummet

"From 1650 to 1710, temperatures across much of the Northern Hemisphere plunged when the Sun entered a quiet phase now called the Maunder Minimum."...

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If energy from the Sun decreased only slightly, why did temperatures drop so severely in the Northern Hemisphere? Climate scientist Drew Shindell and colleagues at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies tackled that question by combining temperature records gleaned from tree rings, ice cores, corals, and the few measurements recorded in the historical record, with an advanced computer model of the Earth’s climate. The group first calculated the amount of energy coming from the Sun during the Maunder Minimum and entered the information into a general circulation model. The model is a mathematical representation of the way various Earth systems—ocean surface temperatures, different layers of the atmosphere, energy reflected and absorbed from land, and so forth—interact to produce the climate.

When the model started with the decreased solar energy and returned temperatures that matched the paleoclimate record, Shindell and his colleagues knew that the model was showing how the Maunder Minimum could have caused the extreme drop in temperatures. The model showed that the drop in temperature was related to ozone in the stratosphere, the layer of the atmosphere that is between 10 and 50 kilometers from the Earth’s surface. Ozone is created when high-energy ultraviolet light from the Sun interacts with oxygen. During the Maunder Minimum, the Sun emitted less strong ultraviolet light, and so less ozone formed. The decrease in ozone affected planetary waves, the giant wiggles in the jet stream that we are used to seeing on television weather reports....

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=7122

 
It seems that the righties here just love showing just how dumb that they are with every opportunity. The above comments are just more proof.

Let me repeat solar OUTPUT changes (how much energy the sun puts out) has never been the cause of the MAJOR (that means big for the righties) climate changes.

Solar INPUT to the earth HAS been the cause of the MAJOR changes in the temps of the earth. These changes are due to orbital changes which cause variation of how much sun hits land vs sea. This initiates warming which releases CO2 which causes more greenhouse effect, which causes more warming, which releases more CO2 etc. It is these levels of CO2 that mostly determine the temps, after being nudged by the orbital changes.

Now I know the above is too complex for dumb righties to comprehend and they don't separate output from input in their feeble minds, but I put it out there for the folks on the forum who may be reading this and have an IQ over 90.

Solar output changes/cycles may have some minor effects on the weather/climate but they seem to be mostly for things like rainfall and the effects are regional. No worldwide temp changes have been found due to solar variation.

For a good reading on this http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/08jan_sunclimate/

Of course other major climate changes have occurred due to asteroid strikes and geological events.

To give some perspective of the scale of the much vaunted mini ice age to the current man made climate change .............


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I now fully expect some retarded comment from an idiot righty. Who will be first? Achilles? WJK? Wedidtootod? GWB?

There are so many possibilities. So many dumb righties. LOL
 
Pretty much. Solar output changes have never been the major driver of climate change. CO2 levels have far greater influence.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/08jan_sunclimate/

"There is, however, a dawning realization among researchers that even these apparently tiny variations can have a significant effect on terrestrial climate. A new report issued by the National Research Council (NRC), "The Effects of Solar Variability on Earth's Climate," lays out some of the surprisingly complex ways that solar activity can make itself felt on our planet."

"Understanding the sun-climate connection requires a breadth of expertise in fields such as plasma physics, solar activity, atmospheric chemistry and fluid dynamics, energetic particle physics, and even terrestrial history. No single researcher has the full range of knowledge required to solve the problem. To make progress, the NRC had to assemble dozens of experts from many fields at a single workshop. The report summarizes their combined efforts to frame the problem in a truly multi-disciplinary context."

"One of the participants, Greg Kopp of the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado, pointed out that while the variations in luminosity over the 11-year solar cycle amount to only a tenth of a percent of the sun's total output, such a small fraction is still important. "Even typical short term variations of 0.1% in incident irradiance exceed all other energy sources (such as natural radioactivity in Earth's core) combined," he says.

Of particular importance is the sun's extreme ultraviolet (EUV) radiation, which peaks during the years around solar maximum. Within the relatively narrow band of EUV wavelengths, the sun’s output varies not by a minuscule 0.1%, but by whopping factors of 10 or more. This can strongly affect the chemistry and thermal structure of the upper atmosphere."


“If the sun really is entering an unfamiliar phase of the solar cycle, then we must redouble our efforts to understand the sun-climate link,” notes Lika Guhathakurta of NASA’s Living with a Star Program, which helped fund the NRC study. “The report offers some good ideas for how to get started.”


 
It seems that the righties here just love showing just how dumb that they are with every opportunity. The above comments are just more proof.

Let me repeat solar OUTPUT changes (how much energy the sun puts out) has never been the cause of the MAJOR (that means big for the righties) climate changes.

Solar INPUT to the earth HAS been the cause of the MAJOR changes in the temps of the earth. These changes are due to orbital changes which cause variation of how much sun hits land vs sea. This initiates warming which releases CO2 which causes more greenhouse effect, which causes more warming, which releases more CO2 etc. It is these levels of CO2 that mostly determine the temps, after being nudged by the orbital changes.

Now I know the above is too complex for dumb righties to comprehend and they don't separate output from input in their feeble minds, but I put it out there for the folks on the forum who may be reading this and have an IQ over 90.

Solar output changes/cycles may have some minor effects on the weather/climate but they seem to be mostly for things like rainfall and the effects are regional. No worldwide temp changes have been found due to solar variation.

For a good reading on this http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/08jan_sunclimate/

Of course other major climate changes have occurred due to asteroid strikes and geological events.

To give some perspective of the scale of the much vaunted mini ice age to the current man made climate change .............


historical03.gif




I now fully expect some retarded comment from an idiot righty. Who will be first? Achilles? WJK? Wedidtootod? GWB?

There are so many possibilities. So many dumb righties. LOL
Can you read you fucking dumb ass? Do you have shit for brains?

Read the quotes from the article. Did you read the article?
 
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/08jan_sunclimate/

"There is, however, a dawning realization among researchers that even these apparently tiny variations can have a significant effect on terrestrial climate. A new report issued by the National Research Council (NRC), "The Effects of Solar Variability on Earth's Climate," lays out some of the surprisingly complex ways that solar activity can make itself felt on our planet."

"Understanding the sun-climate connection requires a breadth of expertise in fields such as plasma physics, solar activity, atmospheric chemistry and fluid dynamics, energetic particle physics, and even terrestrial history. No single researcher has the full range of knowledge required to solve the problem. To make progress, the NRC had to assemble dozens of experts from many fields at a single workshop. The report summarizes their combined efforts to frame the problem in a truly multi-disciplinary context."

"One of the participants, Greg Kopp of the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado, pointed out that while the variations in luminosity over the 11-year solar cycle amount to only a tenth of a percent of the sun's total output, such a small fraction is still important. "Even typical short term variations of 0.1% in incident irradiance exceed all other energy sources (such as natural radioactivity in Earth's core) combined," he says.

Of particular importance is the sun's extreme ultraviolet (EUV) radiation, which peaks during the years around solar maximum. Within the relatively narrow band of EUV wavelengths, the sun’s output varies not by a minuscule 0.1%, but by whopping factors of 10 or more. This can strongly affect the chemistry and thermal structure of the upper atmosphere."


“If the sun really is entering an unfamiliar phase of the solar cycle, then we must redouble our efforts to understand the sun-climate link,” notes Lika Guhathakurta of NASA’s Living with a Star Program, which helped fund the NRC study. “The report offers some good ideas for how to get started.”




Bingo! We have a winner! Yes, wedidittodod2 is the winner! Yes, one of the most brain dead moron righties that infests this forum! No surprise. He actually thinks he is counter arguing!!!
Another breathtaking example of reading comprehension failure. Bravo!!
 
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Bingo! We have a winner! Yes, wedidittodod2 is the winner! Yes, one of the most brain dead moron righty that infests this forum! No surprise. He actually thinks he is counter arguing!!!
Another breathtaking example of reading comprehension failure. Bravo!!
No; NASA is making the counter.

Fraudshitforbrainscurrents stated:
"Let me repeat solar OUTPUT changes (how much energy the sun puts out) has never been the cause of the MAJOR (that means big for the righties) climate changes."

NASA stated:
"There is, however, a dawning realization among researchers that even these apparently tiny variations can have a significant effect on terrestrial climate. "
 
Again Fraudshitforbrainscurrents stated:
"Let me repeat solar OUTPUT changes (how much energy the sun puts out) has never been the cause of the MAJOR (that means big for the righties) climate changes."

NASA stated:
"Understanding the sun-climate connection requires a breadth of expertise in fields such as plasma physics, solar activity, atmospheric chemistry and fluid dynamics, energetic particle physics, and even terrestrial history. No single researcher has the full range of knowledge required to solve the problem."

"Even typical short term variations of 0.1% in incident irradiance exceed all other energy sources (such as natural radioactivity in Earth's core) combined," he says."
 
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