Pence vs Kaine

polls which will be adjusting their templates and herding in the next week or 2. they will all be in the margin for error... unless something big changes.

In your world it sounds like the polls are close.In the real world Hillary is ahead in 7 of the latest polls and Trump is ahead in 2.
 
I thought the modus operandi of the Trump-Pence campaign was rather brilliantly contained in one of Pence's remarks -- and here i am paraphrasing: Trump and I agree we will meet our obligations to our Seniors. I ask you, what can be more soothing than that, nor more devoid of worrisome detail?
Trump has no conservative idealism he must obey.
 
Trump has no conservative idealism he must obey.
Truer words were never written. He has no idealism period! He doesn't Read. He doesn't think. He hasn't a clue about anything so far as we can tell, he's a horrible businessman, and he lies about everything, even when he wouldn't have to. Is there something you can think of that can be put in the 'positives column'? Anything will do. Oh, how about this, he's not Hillary!?
 
Truer words were never written. He has no idealism period! He doesn't Read. He doesn't think. He hasn't a clue about anything so far as we can tell, he's a horrible businessman, and he lies about everything, even when he wouldn't have to. Is there something you can think of that can be put in the 'positives column'? Anything will do. Oh, how about this, he's not Hillary!?
He says what a lot of us are thinking but not allowed to say. I'm about tired trying to fit into a non American world. That's all.
What is an American World? I don't know. I can't remember. It's been 8 years since I lived in one. Does it even exist anymore accept in the hearts and minds of white male taxpayers?
 
He says what a lot of us are thinking but not allowed to say. I'm about tired trying to fit into a non American world. That's all.
What is an American World? I don't know. I can't remember. It's been 8 years since I lived in one. Does it even exist anymore accept in the hearts and minds of white male taxpayers?
I understand. Your struggling with reality, dammit. There are more that just minimally educated, non-reading, white males living in your country, and it is bothersome. Would you feel more American if you could get all those other folks to just go away? Then there would be no more freeloaders living off your labors, right?
 
He says what a lot of us are thinking but not allowed to say
We're allowed to think whatever we like, so far anyway. And we're allowed to say almost anything we like, but it's true that a few things, when said, will get us into trouble with the law. There are many good reasons, however, to avoid saying some of the things we might be thinking. One of those reasons is because what we say could be considered a display of very bad manners and might suggest a mindset that is not very appealing. If we care about others we care about manners. If we have bad manners, it telegraphs a lack of respect for others. There may be times when that is our intention. Regardless, our manners, good or bad, speak to our mindset of the moment. Claiming later to have changed our mindset is going to be a difficult sell.

As a matter of fact, Mr. Trump's prior, bad manners illustrate how bad manners can lead to a great deal of trouble. And that is exactly as it should be. His prior display of extremely bad manners, on numerous occasions, has telegraphed a lack of respect for others, and he is going to have an extremely difficult time living this ill mannered behavior down. He's gone beyond putting more nails in his coffin. He's now got out the impact wrench and bolted the top firmly down. If he is not extremely guarded in his remarks from here on out, it will be the equivalent of getting out the grinder and cutting the bolt heads off.
 
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We're allowed to think whatever we like, so far anyway. And we're allowed to say almost anything we like, but it's true that a few things, when said, will get us into trouble with the law. There are many good reasons, however, to avoid saying some of the things we might be thinking. One of those reasons is because what we say could be considered a display of very bad manners and might suggest a mindset that is not very appealing. If we care about others we care about manners. If we have bad manners, it telegraphs a lack of respect for others. There may be times when that is our intention. Regardless, our manners, good or bad, speak to our mindset of the moment. Claiming later to have changed our mindset is going to be a difficult sell.

As a matter of fact, Mr. Trump's prior, bad manners illustrate how bad manners can lead to a great deal of trouble. And that is exactly as it should be. His prior display of extremely bad manners, on numerous occasions, has telegraphed a lack of respect for others, and he is going to have an extremely difficult time living this ill mannered behavior down. He's gone beyond putting more nails in his coffin. He's now got out the impact wrench and bolted the top firmly down. If he is not extremely guarded in his remarks from here on out, it will be the equivalent of getting out the grinder and cutting the bolt heads off.
"He's gone beyond putting more nails in his coffin. He's now got out the impact wrench and bolted the top firmly down. If he is not extremely guarded in his remarks from here on out, it will be the equivalent of getting out the grinder and cutting the bolt heads off."
LOL. Having spent most of my career in industrial manufacturing and much of that as a machinist/millwright before I went to the dark side of management, I can appreciate your assessment. There is one more step in the process which I believe we'll soon see. Once the bold heads are ground down out comes the welder to permanently affix those bolt heads in place. There's no give up in this guy, so it's a complete crash and burn in the offing.
 
Pence is the only likeable guy out there.

Clinton, Trump, and Kaine are all assholes.


Lying over and over again to defend scum like Trump makes him unlikable to me.Kasich is what I consider a likable Republican.He wouldn't compromise his values to defend scum like Trump.
 
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