Nashville Police Shooting

Tsing Tao said:
I dunno, Van. I went to watch it because of how you indicated it was one sided, but I gotta tell you, there is a part right there before the police officer shot that the perp turns to the side - he could have been pointing the firearm he supposedly had back at the cop when the cop took the shot.

This is not as clear cut as I had thought it would be at all.

The officer then approaches as if there is a live gun with the assailant.

I do not see the police officer take any defensive posture during his firing (which one would assume he would if a weapon was pointed in his direction) but the assailant clearly turns sideways during his running. Perhaps he is wildly firing or pointing and the cop knew there was little chance of a hit on him, so he paused, and fired back.
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Well, if he did brandish a weapon in that manner, it was justified. I think they would have reported that initially though, to avert the inevitable community backlash.
We'll see what happens.
 
I think the cop is justified IF the perp had a gun. What's he supposed to do? Not chase him?
With one or two exceptions, all of these shootings involve someone committing a crime.
 
Clubber Lang said:
Once again we only see the very end. Not what led up to the chase and shooting.

Why can’t people just OBEY THE OFFICER?
I just don’t get it.
Respect the uniform and you won’t get shot at 99.999999999999999999999999999% of the time.

Here is what we know about the fleeing perp-
Daniel Hambrick 24 years old
6/26/2009 - Convicted of felony aggravated robbery
6/27/2009 - Convicted of aggravated robbery
8/11/2009 - Indicted for felony aggravated robbery
2/10/2010 - Convicted of misdemeanor assault
2/22/2013 - Convicted of possession or casual exchange
10/26/2013 - Convicted of misdemeanor alternate ID number
10/27/2013 - Convicted of weapon possession, felon in possession of a weapon 11/7/2013 - Convicted of drugs in a drug-free school zone, resisting arrest, use of drug paraphernalia, criminal impersonation, possession with intent to deliver 11/23/2015 - Convicted of possession or casual exchange
12/21/2016 - Convicted of drugs in a drug-free school zone, resisting arrest, drugs, felon in possession of a weapon, evading arrest, possession with intent to deliver
12-/21/2017 - Convicted of being a felon in possession of a weapon with intent
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The questions to be asked are at least five fold: 1) was the officer in immediate danger of being killed when he killed the suspect? 2) were there alternatives available to the officer, such as bringing the subject down in a non-lethal way? 3) Was there sufficient reason to believe that had the suspect got away he would have been a life threatening danger to others? 4) Is there proof that the officer, at the time of the shooting, had identified the subject and was aware of the subjects conviction record? If not, this record, in my opinion, ought not to be admissible in trial court. The officer must make his decision based on what he knows at the time. If the officer was aware of the suspects record, it should only be partially admissible.

And finally, but important, what does the statutory law say about police officers shooting fleeing subjects?
 
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And finally, what does the statutory law say about police officers shooting fleeing subjects?

If the officer believes he poses a danger to the public he is justified in using deadly force.
 
Poor guy - Gunned down by the highest order of the Patriarchy: a white guy who hates 'dark skinned' people.

(likely to be heard on CNN later today)
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deadly-nashville-police-shooting-new-video-daniel-hambrick/
Police later tweeted a picture of a gun they say Hambrick was carrying and refused to drop. The Nashville Fraternal Order of Police argues Hambrick could have shot the officer at any moment.

My initial thought after watching video was the cop needs to go to prison for a long time. But that sentiment changes when you realize that the criminal has a gun in his hand and he refused to drop it as commanded by the officer. He easily could've turned and killed the pursuing officer. That's a really difficult situation to be put in.
 
LS1Z28 said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deadly-nashville-police-shooting-new-video-daniel-hambrick/
Police later tweeted a picture of a gun they say Hambrick was carrying and refused to drop. The Nashville Fraternal Order of Police argues Hambrick could have shot the officer at any moment. The Nashville Fraternal Order of Police argues Hambrick could have shot the officer at any moment.

My initial thought after watching video was the cop needs to go to prison for a long time. But that sentiment changes when you realize that the criminal has a gun in his hand and he refused to drop it as commanded by the officer. He easily could've turned and killed the pursuing officer. That's a really difficult situation.
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It is a very difficult situation. But the officer is trained and more than likely 1000 times more skilled at shooting. He could drop the guy in a split second. Did the guy turn and raise the gun? Thats the question.
 
LS1Z28 said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deadly-nashville-police-shooting-new-video-daniel-hambrick/
Police later tweeted a picture of a gun they say Hambrick was carrying and refused to drop. The Nashville Fraternal Order of Police argues Hambrick could have shot the officer at any moment.

My initial thought after watching video was the cop needs to go to prison for a long time. But that sentiment changes when you realize that the criminal has a gun in his hand and he refused to drop it as commanded by the officer. He easily could've turned and killed the pursuing officer. That's a really difficult situation to be put in.
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and, in watching the video, it appears the suspect did turn slightly once or twice. It's hard to tell. But if he was reaching for a fleeing shot, then it's justified completely. IF.
 
vanzandt said:
It is a very difficult situation. But the officer is trained and more than likely 1000 times more skilled at shooting. He could drop the guy in a split second. Did the guy turn and raise the gun? Thats the question.
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https://www.myajc.com/blog/get-scho...yet-want-arm-teachers/mDBlhDtV6Na4wJVpeu58cM/
It looks like trained police officers hit their target at a rate of about 18%. I'm not sure he could've ended the situation as efficiently as you think.

I'm not sure it matters if he pointed the gun at the officer or not. We see justified shootings all the time where a criminal is simply reaching to their waist. If this guy had a gun in hand, he would be considered a lethal threat. Especially if he refused to drop the weapon after being commanded to do so.
 
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