C'mon Canada

Frederick Foresight said:
Maybe, but I'd rather they just get cold and hungry, and then leave. And that if they decide to get unruly, that holy hell be rained upon them. And their trucks can get confiscated to pay for whatever damage they inflict.

But that's just me.
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You know how it goes...

Feed them, listen to them and laugh with them as you walk around within their groups...gather as much intel as possible. :D

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gwb-trading said:
Well look what the Freedom Convoy managed to take out...

Conservative MPs vote to remove Erin O'Toole as leader
Of the 118 MPs who voted, 73 opted for a change in leadership
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/otoole-leadership-vote-1.6336336
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People (his own party and Canadians) got tired of him not supporting vaccines and mandates (the way he was supporting protestors)...

Most of Canada wants a leader that's supporting the tools to end the Pandemic and O'Toole just didn't listen to most in his party.

Yet, his problems heated up during the election and they lost the election by openly opposing how the government aggressively attacked the Pandemic from the beginning.

Regardless, it's the conservative party that's "very divided" and not Canada...the message the conservative party (the MPs) wanted the country to understand is that Erin O'Toole doesn't have the ability to lead his party nor have the ability to lead the country in a Pandemic.

I'm surprised he remained the conservative leader this long after the election loss. Yet, Erin O'Toole being voted out does send a message to other party leaders about what will happen if you're not openly supporting vaccines and mandates to end the Pandemic.
  • Mr. FlipFlop can now go join the truckers and protestors.
The MPs will be very careful in selecting their next conservative leader that will be more helpful in leading Canada out of a Pandemic and keeping the party together (not divided).

Other news...

1) The truckers and protestors are very lucky they did not do a Freedom Convoy in Vancouver, Montréal or Toronto. The people of those cities would have already confronted the Freedom Convoy and moved them out.

2) Ottawa Police have now identified the funding sources of the Freedom Convoy...most of it is coming from the United States (not surprising).

3) Canadian truckers now understand that most of the truckers and their CTA do not support the Freedom Convoy along with the fact that it was not having the impact on the consumers the way that they wanted...they've now decided to block the U.S./Canadian border crossing. Border crossing now down two one lane.

4) Ottawa Police are now seeing evidence of firearms and weapons being gathered at the Freedom Convoy.

Reminder: Videos out there circulating about how nice the Ottawa Police are to the Freedom Convoy and protestors...giving them food. I'm ex-military... it is called getting intel and keeping them calm. :rolleyes:

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It’s absolutely incredible that politicians like Justin Trudeau can get away with purposefully lying to their own people with demonstrably false statements like “pandemic of the unvaccinated” when 75% of COVID hospitalizations in Ontario are partially or fully vaccinated

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Van_der_Voort_4 said:
It’s absolutely incredible that politicians like Justin Trudeau can get away with purposefully lying to their own people with demonstrably false statements like “pandemic of the unvaccinated” when 75% of COVID hospitalizations in Ontario are partially or fully vaccinated

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You need to look up Base Rate Fallacy.... and then get back to us with the vaccinated breakthrough case rate of those hospitalized in Ontario.

BTW -- your claims about 75% of COVID hospitalizations in Ontario being vaccinated has been fact checked and proven incorrect multiple times. -- it never hit the 75% level despite being above 50% at some points.This is reflective that in a highly vaccinated population you will have a larger pool of vaccinated people to show up in a hospital (hence Base Rate Fallacy) -- with a diminishing pool of unvaccinated who will be infected. This actually shows that vaccination is working when looking at the figures of the percentage of people infected who are vaccinated or unvaccinated as a percentage of their representative population. Also partially unvaccinated people are the same as being unvaccinated from a public health perspective. Take a look at the data.

https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/case-numbers-and-spread

https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations
 
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