All Atheist's End up In Hell

I very much appreciate your sentiments mickey. I just don't see why a random, spontaneous or accidental event isn't more beautiful and wondrous than one which can only be imagined to be one guided by yet another agency, which bears none of those hallmarks .:)
I don't really understand what you mean, I'm lost here....

Any random, spontaneous or accidental event will be one off, eg a monkey may create by accident a hammer, but monkey can't build a motorcar complete with service garages, roads, fuel bowsers, motor mechanics, paint shop, window glaziers, and water for the radiator. A synonym for life.

On earth we have the full kit and camboodle, unfortunately over the years lost to extinction many plants and animals, so what we see now is only a fraction of what once was.

All I can assume, this was built by intelligence, not accident or random event.
 
First time UFOs have been brought up. Interesting. Yes they are real. Very real. But what are they and where are they from? They are not aliens from outer space but will be sold to the public as such and they will claim to have seeded life on earth. With evolution theory destroyed by science itself, panspermia will be the next replacement so that God can still be ignored as the source of life. On UFOs --- they are interdimensional demonic activity.

I hope the MEDIC is still with Stu. He will really need one now.

As an addendum to my last post on the scope of hell, I might add the following:

A bigot is initially a personality that emerges when Christ is ignored. In the gospel of John s.i.n. is defined as, "...because they did not believe in Me (Christ)". But before there was ever believing, or disbelieving, there was ignorance, which is accomplished through the dumbing down of a mind which initially knows all. Once that is dumbed down, then you have what's called faith, and the various concepts that faith wishes upon. Initially, faith is not used to wish upon Christ, but instead to wish against Christ. So this is what it means to disbelieve Christ, and it is a primordial state of mind which manifests all other bigots and bigotry. As I've said, the primordial bigot can be characterized as "the prodigal son", which wanders away from the original conditions through what amounts to bigotry first, and disbelief second. Ignorance is manufactured, not granted.

Paved with good intentions (to seek for more) the prodigal son sets out on a road into the unknown... literally unknown. This is the domain of faith, and imagination. Faith then functions as a wish granting factory, basically making shit up as it goes along...as it goes further and further away from reality (Christ). Each manifestation of a wish poses a potential problem requiring a decision. Each decision within the faith factory manifests some new situation to deal with in an almost endless feedback loop. It takes a determined bigot to persist in trying to solve the problems that wishing manifests, with more wishing, more faith, and more manifestations.

Mankind, as well every other intergalactic specie of sentient being is made manifest out of the initial ignorance...out of the initial unbelief in Christ. It is only natural then, or at least predictable, that we all maintain that same, primordial disbelief, or what I prefer to think of as feigned ignorance (of Christ). As such, we are natural enemies of Christ/Reality/Truth, along with all the other demons in hell.

Xenophilia, as well xenophobia arise out of the pursuit and promulgation of special status. We love special status (xenophilia) and we hate it too (xenophobia). It's like a simultaneous blessing and curse. We can only experience special status within the domain of faith, in the land of feigned ignorance of Christ/Reality. Hell is the land of inequality, which goes hand in hand with inequity which is not far off from iniquity.

Out of the inequities of special status arise all of our classic demons. In hell, situations arise that seem unfair, giving birth the the phenomenon of revenge. To contemplate revenge, you really have to narrow your mind down to a special kind of bigot. And this is where our classic demons are born. But we have all started out the same on the path of disbelief in Christ, which leads further out into the darkness of the faith factory.
 
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First time UFOs have been brought up. Interesting. Yes they are real. Very real. But what are they and where are they from? They are not aliens from outer space but will be sold to the public as such and they will claim to have seeded life on earth. With evolution theory destroyed by science itself, panspermia will be the next replacement so that God can still be ignored as the source of life. On UFOs --- they are interdimensional demonic activity.

I hope the MEDIC is still with Stu. He will really need one now.

I noticed that studentofthemarkets liked this post, which is how we know it is completely wrong.

What's wrong is your characterization of intergalactic neighbors. A wise teacher once said, "Love your neighbor as your self", rather than be suspicious of your neighbors as demons. Given the great scope of hell that I've sketched out, any visitors from the Pleiades, or proximate galaxies are near enough to be neighbors. Besides, it seems to me that if your neighbors are demons, you should really have a rethink about where you think you are. I have merely admitted this is hell, and have explained we are all here because of bigotry against Christ. It doesn't help us to perpetuate that bigotry against our neighbors, even if they are demons. You have to open the narrowness of mind enough to recognize our common ancestry, as demons, as the prodigal son, and then ultimately as Christ, our Self. THAT is why you should love your neighbor as "self". The alternative is to remain bigots, at war, in hell.
 
Has anyone here read any of Watchman Nee's books?
I've read many of them, he was my favourite author once upon a time many years ago.
The only problem I had was, I couldn't understand what he was saying.
 
Has anyone here read any of Watchman Nee's books?
I've read many of them, he was my favourite author many years ago.
The only problem I had was, I couldn't understand what he was saying.
I have one of his books. I'm not sure I finished it. I remember thinking that he seemed to know what he was talking about, but as far as whether or not I understood what he was talking about, I'm not sure, since I can't remember what he was talking about. :D
 
I bought a Gann book once, I remember the price, $100.
I had it for years and would pick it up to read numerous times, could never understand it.
I finally gave it away to my Amibroker mentor.
 
For fucks sake dude, will you please stick with your own dogma!

In the Gospel of Luke, the parable is as follows:

He told them this parable. "Which of you men, if you had one hundred sheep, and lost one of them, wouldn't leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it on his shoulders, rejoicing. When he comes home, he calls together his friends, his family and his neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!' I tell you that even so there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, than over ninety-nine righteous people who need no repentance."

— Luke 15:3–7​


Jesus christ, I mean, no offense but at least understand your own bullshit! :rolleyes:

Hey, Stu -- and I was beginning to think that you had a sense of humor.
 
Was reading jokes posted below the Bible jokes video I posted yesterday and can't resist sharing this one with you guys:

Scientists told God they didn't need Him because they figured out how to make a universe. We challenge you. God said, "Ok, I'm up for that challenge." The scientist reached down to pick up a handful of dirt to begin the new universe. GOD said, "Oh no. You've got to get your own dirt."​
 
Arguably, the manufacturing of this so-called "universe" is indeed a joke. The thing about jokes, you'll notice, is they almost always involve some kind of exaggeration which really amounts to some kind of deception. The joke is funny to the degree the deception is fairly readily recognized before it can do any damage. We don't like jokes that people take too far. But we also don't like it when people take jokes too seriously either. Notions about Christ, which are not true, would indeed be funny, if they weren't taken so seriously. It's this seriousness that turns a notion about Christ into something seriously insane.

Faith is one of those notions about Christ that when taken seriously, has consequences. One of those is how it is used to manifest the material worlds. The universal symbol for faith is "dirt", or "dust", from which the first man is said to have been fashioned, shaped, formed, or otherwise modeled (not too differently from how you would fashion or model an idol).

In a letter to the "Hebrews", an anonymous warlock even admits how faith is the substance of everything this world stand upon:

"1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report. 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

This echoes what i've been saying about faith, how it functions as a wish fulfillment factory for the prodigal son, which forms the basis of his very own world. The difference is the Hebrews, or this anonymous warlock, saw this as a good thing, whereas i see it as more like a joke. Think about it for a minute. The warlock admits faith is based on nothing, but forms the basis of everything that we can see. He admits that faith facilitates the manifestation of those things that we wish/hope for.

The problem with faith is it is a knowledge substitute. Thankfully, you could not manifest the worlds of the prodigal son with actual knowledge. As such, faith is geared to give ourselves gifts that Christ, or any Good god, would never give to us. Faith gives us what we wish...not what we will. If our will was in tune with Christ, we would not wish for anything that faith would promise us it can deliver.

As a knowledge substitute, faith goes directly against Christ, which embodies, contains, or otherwise owns the entirety of all knowledge. If Christ is all that exists, then all knowledge is about Christ. Faith too is about Christ. That is, it is for manifesting every notion about Christ, which, when taken seriously, will drive us insane.

"From dust we come and to dust we will return" means that we manifest out of the nothingness of faith, and in the end, will return to the nothingness from which faith came. Knowledge will prevail in the end against the gates of faith.

Meanwhile, it is said that faith can move mountains. No, not really, at least not anymore. Faith is the substance of the mountains to begin with yes, but since then, the locus of power has been lost. Magicians, witches and warlocks are always trying to re-locate the locus of power, and wield faith once again for more wish fulfilment. What will move mountains, and throw them into the sea, so-to-speak, is knowledge. Anything that faith has assembled, knowledge will take it apart, and return it to nothingness.

Primordial ignorance, as well faith, can be manufactured. From a book titled "Think and Grow Rich", faith is described this way:

"FAITH is a state of mind which may be induced, or created, by affirmation or repeated instructions to the subconscious mind, through the principle of auto-suggestion."

The book was an attempt to re-locate the locus of power that would make it easy, or at least easier, to manifest the things we wish for. This is basically an attempt to rediscover the method by which our material worlds were manifest in the first place.

Back when the prodigal son had yet to spend his entire inheritance of power, he could merely pronounce something to come into existence so-to-speak, by fiat. For example,

"Let there be light"

This is really not too different from the spell:

"So mote it be".

However, the use of spells eventually confuses the practitioner, who will lose the locus of the power. This is how the prodigal son spent his inheritance.
 
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Arguably, the manufacturing of this so-called "universe" is indeed a joke. The thing about jokes, you'll notice, is they almost always involve some kind of exaggeration which really amounts to some kind of deception. The joke is funny to the degree the deception is fairly readily recognized before it can do any damage. We don't like jokes that people take too far. But we also don't like it when people take jokes too seriously either. Notions about Christ, which are not true, would indeed be funny, if they weren't taken so seriously. It's this seriousness that turns a notion about Christ into something seriously insane.

Faith is one of those notions about Christ that when taken seriously, has consequences. One of those is how it is used to manifest the material worlds. The universal symbol for faith is "dirt", or "dust", from which the first man is said to have been fashioned, shaped, formed, or otherwise modeled (not too differently from how you would fashion or model an idol).

In a letter to the "Hebrews", an anonymous warlock even admits how faith is the substance of everything this world stand upon:

"1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report. 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

This echoes what i've been saying about faith, how it functions as a wish fulfillment factory for the prodigal son, which forms the basis of his very own world. The difference is the Hebrews, or this anonymous warlock, saw this as a good thing, whereas i see it as more like a joke. Think about it for a minute. The warlock admits faith is based on nothing, but forms the basis of everything that we can see. He admits that faith facilitates the manifestation of those things that we wish/hope for.

The problem with faith is it is a knowledge substitute. Thankfully, you could not manifest the worlds of the prodigal son with actual knowledge. As such, faith is geared to give ourselves gifts that Christ, or any Good god, would never give to us. Faith gives us what we wish...not what we will. If our will was in tune with Christ, we would not wish for anything that faith would promise us it can deliver.

As a knowledge substitute, faith goes directly against Christ, which embodies, contains, or otherwise owns the entirety of all knowledge. If Christ is all that exists, then all knowledge is about Christ. Faith too is about Christ. That is, it is for manifesting every notion about Christ, which, when taken seriously, will drive us insane.

"From dust we come and to dust we will return" means that we manifest out of the nothingness of faith, and in the end, will return to the nothingness from which faith came. Knowledge will prevail in the end against the gates of faith.

Meanwhile, it is said that faith can move mountains. No, not really, at least not anymore. Faith is the substance of the mountains to begin with yes, but since then, the locus of power has been lost. Magicians, witches and warlocks are always trying to re-locate the locus of power, and wield faith once again for more wish fulfilment. What will move mountains, and throw them into the sea, so-to-speak, is knowledge. Anything that faith has assembled, knowledge will take it apart, and return it to nothingness.

Primordial ignorance, as well faith, can be manufactured. From a book titled "Think and Grow Rich", faith is described this way:

"FAITH is a state of mind which may be induced, or created, by affirmation or repeated instructions to the subconscious mind, through the principle of auto-suggestion."

The book was an attempt to re-locate the locus of power that would make it easy, or at least easier, to manifest the things we wish for. This is basically an attempt to rediscover the method by which our material worlds were manifest in the first place.

Back when the prodigal son had yet to spend his entire inheritance of power, he could merely pronounce something to come into existence so-to-speak, by fiat. For example,

"Let there be light"

This is really not too different from the spell:

"So mote it be".

However, the use of spells eventually confuses the practitioner, who will lose the locus of the power. This is how the prodigal son spent his inheritance.

Let me ask you one question, Good1. Do you confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh?
 
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