All Atheist's End up In Hell

[Illini Trader]

Maybe UFO's are in on this God story, maybe they wrote the bible.
Maybe UFO's are drones owned by the satanic catholic church.

First time UFOs have been brought up. Interesting. Yes they are real. Very real. But what are they and where are they from? They are not aliens from outer space but will be sold to the public as such and they will claim to have seeded life on earth. With evolution theory destroyed by science itself, panspermia will be the next replacement so that God can still be ignored as the source of life. On UFOs --- they are interdimensional demonic activity.

I hope the MEDIC is still with Stu. He will really need one now.

 

[themickey]

On UFOs --- they are interdimensional demonic activity.

Right, more whacky thinking.
Christians can't get away from creatures, be they; God, devil, angels, demons, dragons, archangels, saints, Trinity. All very colorful characters to make up a good story.

What if there are no spiritual creatures in our dimension, sounds more likely to me.

There may be life forms on other planets, but they don't interact with earth.

 

[stu]

You know I love all you crazy religious dudes though I realize you ain’t particularly religiclous like Illini Trader and Student mickey , but why mickey, just why! Why do you step to the Dark Side that way….?

There's no doubt nature is mind boggling fantastic.
A creator? Imo very likely.

Why isn’t mind boggling fantastic enough.? Why arbitrarily bolt onto, “mind boggling fantastic” , an imaginary creator for no good reason and especially when one isn’t even required in the first place?

Return to the Light you must !

 

[Illini Trader]

Return to the Light you must !

Stu, Take it easy on the evilmouse! He gives you 99% and you complain about the 1% he gives us. BTW you have dark and light reversed.

 

[piezoe]

Engineers understand that it is impossible for unguided, gradual, step-by-step processes to provide the required minimal level of completeness to build an information processor.

Well, we can stop right there. Neither an engineer, nor anyone else, expects to create anything specific in an "unguided" process. If life arose spontaneously on Earth over 9 billion years it would not have been by an unguided process. The process would of course be constrained, i.e.,guided, by the natural laws so only certain outcomes are possible. Thus for example the formation of the chemical elements in the solar plasma is "guided" by the natural laws, only certain combinations are allowed by these laws, otherwise there could arise an infinite number of different elements. We know by observation this is not the case. Absolutely no "creator" is required for the elements to form spontaneously in cooling solar plasma. And we find exactly the same elements wherever we look in our universe!. An unguided process would naturally produce different elements everywhere.

We can do this experiment or ourselves. We only find elements from the periodic table when we cool a plasma; none others. Why? Because the formation of these elements is guided by the natural laws.

You are seeing something because you already believe it. This is profoundly unscientific! You'll do better if you wait until you see something to believe it.

 

[themickey]

You know I love all you crazy religious dudes though I realize you ain’t particularly religiclous like Illini Trader and Student mickey , but why mickey, just why! Why do you step to the Dark Side that way….?

Why isn’t mind boggling fantastic enough.? Why arbitrarily bolt onto, “mind boggling fantastic” , an imaginary creator for no good reason and especially when one isn’t even required in the first place?

Return to the Light you must !

Well I suppose because of my engineering background I see in living creatures pumps, valves, levers, materials, structures, housings, computers, chemistry, antibiotics, relationships, self repair, etc.

For my way of thinking, it is extremely difficult to comprehend this was put together by chance, randomness, accident, time.

Life is life, it breathes, even dormant atoms in a rock have life.
And life to me means a being.
The universe is a being.

Humans for all our brilliance have yet to be able to create life, yet daily, life is created, not by us, but by life, eg, in a lab we can't create life, but via sex we can.

So, due to this earth teeming with life, I'm assuming there possibly, highly likely is some creator.
Not a biblical creature creator, with legs etc, but something else too enormous for us to imagine.
Because the universe is enormous, that means all creation/creator is enormous.

Right and wrong are universal laws, if we do right the majority of the time, then right wins, if we do wrong majority of time then disaster wins.

Because nature is so fantastic, that means right/goodness is winning, that's the side I want to be on and hopefully everyone else.

 

[themickey]

The reason I believe christianity is dumb and stupid, because its infantile, pathetic and very limited.
Beginning of sarcasm:
Life started via a couple of people in a garden, the bible exclusive origination from Jewish nation, Messiah one person who had a small clan of exclusive followers.
If you are poor, weak, then God looks favourably on you.
If you are rich, famous, then you are despised by God and most likely wont make it into heaven.

What a load of garbage!!!

 

[Good1]

Right, more whacky thinking.
Christians can't get away from creatures, be they; God, devil, angels, demons, dragons, archangels, saints, Trinity. All very colorful characters to make up a good story.

What if there are no spiritual creatures in our dimension, sounds more likely to me.

There may be life forms on other planets, but they don't interact with earth.

First time UFOs have been brought up. Interesting. Yes they are real. Very real. But what are they and where are they from? They are not aliens from outer space but will be sold to the public as such and they will claim to have seeded life on earth. With evolution theory destroyed by science itself, panspermia will be the next replacement so that God can still be ignored as the source of life. On UFOs --- they are interdimensional demonic activity.

I hope the MEDIC is still with Stu. He will really need one now.

When I say this is hell, I mean to include all galaxies and all stars. It also includes parallel universi with their own galaxies. By parallel I mean universi containing additional expressions of each personality, representing each significant decision that each personality makes. One universe per significant decision. If you had 100 universi per personality, that's kazillions of total universi in hell.

That's why I say this is just one zip code in hell, and depending on the string of choices each personality makes, the situation could get better, or much worse.

Hell is a closed system, meaning there is nothing new under the sun, meaning all decisions have already been made and time has ended the same way it began. At best, time lasted a split second, or a single moment, and was subsumed by the original condition of eternity. It's a closed system, like a holograph or a movie that's already in the can, so to speak. Your current experience is more like a review, which seems to reanimate a particular moment in time. Time is actually static, and only seems to move as the worm, your observational platform, moves through the apple, which is a static hologram.

This is only experiential with the aid of bigotry. Technically, all demons are bigots and visa versa. A bigot would not know that time is already finished. All hellish scenarios have already been acted out, according to the choices and decisions that were proposed.

Arguably you are not even really acting as a free agent, but rather reenacting a set of silly choices that sprang forth from the original silly choice. At this point in your journey through hell, indeed through any point, you really only have one choice that is genuinely of free agency. In all other choices you are slave to s.i.n. so to speak.

You only have the choice to stay, or leave, which is why righteousness is defined as leaving.

 

[stu]

Stu, Take it easy on the evilmouse! He gives you 99% and you complain about the 1% he gives us. BTW you have dark and light reversed.

For fucks sake dude, will you please stick with your own dogma!

In the Gospel of Luke, the parable is as follows:

He told them this parable. "Which of you men, if you had one hundred sheep, and lost one of them, wouldn't leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it on his shoulders, rejoicing. When he comes home, he calls together his friends, his family and his neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!' I tell you that even so there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, than over ninety-nine righteous people who need no repentance."

— Luke 15:3–7​

Jesus christ, I mean, no offense but at least understand your own bullshit!

 

[stu]

Well I suppose because of my engineering background I see in living creatures pumps, valves, levers, materials, structures, housings, computers, chemistry, antibiotics, relationships, self repair, etc.

For my way of thinking, it is extremely difficult to comprehend this was put together by chance, randomness, accident, time.

Life is life, it breathes, even dormant atoms in a rock have life.
And life to me means a being.
The universe is a being.

Humans for all our brilliance have yet to be able to create life, yet daily, life is created, not by us, but by life, eg, in a lab we can't create life, but via sex we can.

So, due to this earth teeming with life, I'm assuming there possibly, highly likely is some creator.
Not a biblical creature creator, with legs etc, but something else too enormous for us to imagine.
Because the universe is enormous, that means all creation/creator is enormous.

Right and wrong are universal laws, if we do right the majority of the time, then right wins, if we do wrong majority of time then disaster wins.

Because nature is so fantastic, that means right/goodness is winning, that's the side I want to be on and hopefully everyone else.

I very much appreciate your sentiments mickey. I just don't see why a random, spontaneous or accidental event isn't more beautiful and wondrous than one which can only be imagined to be one guided by yet another agency, which bears none of those hallmarks .