All Atheist's End up In Hell

Church ministers/priests, start off with good intentions, as they grow in power, that allows temptation or an opening for a breaking of universal laws, then it opens up for evil.
Evil is not so much from satan, evil is from breaking universal laws.

If humans were able to limit the power of other humans, maybe then we would have more peace.
When millionaires and leaders get too powerful, usually it ends badly for everyone because they create an inflated opinion of themselves.
 
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themickey said:
Yes, but ok, lets assume a satan, he's still roaming about, still free.
As for humans, we have a bit of good in us and a bit of evil.
Maybe the evil in us comes from breaking universal laws, not from satan.
Lets assume pride (haughtiness) is part of a universal law, when we go down that path, like playing with/abusing electricity, we get a shock.
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Yes, the "universal law" is God's law. And, God hates pride so much that it has consequences like you say. Ole Nebuchadnezzar found that out very quickly. Your Biblical background as a child is starting to show. Be careful or Overnight will begin to worry about the "evilmouse" again.
 
Illini Trader said:
Yes, the "universal law" is God's law.
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Totally agree, but God is nothing like christians portray.
Christians portray God as a type person (Father, judge, ruler, kingdom, has a book to make records, has a son, looks down onto humanity etc) and satan as a being (angel).
I totally disagree with these christian concepts which were imagined thousands of years ago beginning with Abraham etc.

I see a God as universal laws, evil is not so much evil, nor is it punishment, but 'evil' is actually a result of breaking laws.
If you touch a live electrical wire and get electrocuted, thats not evil, but a result of transgressing an electrical rule, electricity has power and if used incorrectly bites.

Like gravity, it keeps us grounded, but if you jump out of aeroplane, you get hurt. Jumping from plane without parachute is not evil, it is gravity power being used incorrectly and abused.

So, God is not a being but a set of universal laws, and satan isnt an evil angel, but consequences from breaking laws, ie, it's not punishment nor evil.
 
So when Russia creates a war plus terror, thats not satan working.
Wars are a result of breaking laws and allowing tyrants to have too much power.
Where did Putin get his power? From the west who fed him money knowing his abusive nature from the beginning. The west due to corporate greed fed Putins power and corruption.
The west and money greed fed Putin and created a nasty consequence.
Excessive power and greed are univesal laws being broken.
Nothing to do with a Father God or fallen angel satan bible story.
 
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So, if we had a church which taught morals and universal laws, and forgot about the bible as written by God and other fairy tales written by Jews, I would probably attend. :)
Nothing wrong with Jews so long as they don't abuse power, which is what they do.
Again, Israel fed power by America shunting taxpayer money their way.
The christian church/religion in general has too much power, sway over the masses and that power gets abused.
 
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themickey said:
The christian church/religion in general has too much power, sway over the masses and that power gets abused
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100% true in regards to the Roman Church over the centuries and up to today. It is not truly a church at all, it is a power structure.
 
themickey said:
So, if we had a church which taught morals and universal laws, and forgot about the bible as written by God and other fairy tales written by Jews, I would probably attend. :)
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Then it would not be a church at all. You can probably find some social clubs that do good things.
 
Illini Trader said:
Mick, you are 100% wrong on this one. You do not get to invent God to your liking.
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Keep praying to a Father who owns a book with jottings of sins, and being a needy little sheeple.
Maybe UFO's are in on this God story, maybe they wrote the bible.
Maybe UFO's are drones owned by the satanic catholic church.
If jesus can walk on water, he can also walk on clouds, maybe ufo's are jesus slippers. :)
 
themickey said:
There's no doubt nature is mind boggling fantastic.
A creator? Imo very likely.
Evolution: There probably maybe is a creator, but life also evolves, humans get smarter, so do animals. Creatures adapt to their environments.

Bible prophesies: I take with a pinch of salt
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So would you say you believe some of the Bible has value?

@themickey: I was listening to these corny jokes and thought you might get a chuckle out of this one...queued right at the joke that made me think you'd laugh at it:

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