Age of Consent at 14 Makes Canada Favoured Sex Tourism Destination

In studying Canadian criminal law it's actually necessary also to consider
Federal and Provincial parliamentary legislation that may have amended the
Criminal Code.

In relation to prostitution and child prostitution, it appears that several
pieces of federal legislation have been passed amending the criminal code. One
important example is Bill C-15 (An act to amend the criminal code) which
received Royal Assent in 1987, and went into force in 1988. C-15 prohibited
patronizing a prostitute under the age of 18, and increased the
punishment for living off of the avails of prostitution when the prostitute is
under the age of 18.

Unfortunately, I can't find the full text of C-15 (1987) as passed online, and
I don't have quick access to a legal library with the full text. However a
summary of the relevant legislation is available here.

http://dsp-psd.pwgsc.gc.ca/Collection-R/LoPBdP/CIR/822-e.htm#cbillc15txt

So it seems pretty unclear to me what it means to say that `Prostitution is
legal in Canada with 14 year olds.'

If I were giving out legal advice, and I'm not, I would repeat what I said before: stick to
women over the age of 18 if you're going to Canada, and ask them for ID
if there's any reason for doubt.
 
I did mean version's claim, to be sure, just to clarify.

Hm, what's that smell.....it smells like.........oh, i think version has stepped in a pile of DEBUNKMENT:D

Good luck with your law studies, dpt.
Dont s'pose, you want a slice of the alabami franchise?

Have to be honest, turns out not such a good idea.:( My demographic studies weren't so good.......rednecks use beer and whiskey bottles for that purpose, so my backlog of guns and truck bits is gonna ruin me!

They drink the beer/whiskey, then use the bottles as *ahem* toys, and if it dont go so well, they smash'em and use "em as weapons-im ruined:(

Mind you, could probably get cost for the inventory, as guns and old truck parts.............ruined, i tell's ya



:D
 
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Good luck with your law studies, dpt.
Dont s'pose, you want a slice of the alabami franchise?

Thanks, but no thanks: too busy with my hydroponic farms. Got a nice setup in Vancouver.

Tomatoes only, natch, but really first class :p
 
Quote from acronym:

I did mean version's claim, to be sure, just to clarify.

Hm, what's that smell.....it smells like.........oh, i think version has stepped in a pile of DEBUNKMENT:D :D

I challenge anyone to show me an arrest record for a 14 year old
who was given money after having sex with a stranger in Canada.
It does not happen. It is not enforced. It is not "illegal".

Go visit Vancouver some time. You will see what I am talking about.
 
Quote from version77:

I challenge anyone to show me an arrest record for a 14 year old
who was given money after having sex with a stranger in Canada.
It does not happen. It is not enforced. It is not "illegal".

Go visit Vancouver some time. You will see what I am talking about.

Sorry, but argument doesn't work that way. It was your assertion that
prostitution with 14 year olds is legal in Canada:


Prostitution is legal in Canada with 14 year olds[.

It's now your assertion that there have never been arrests of the kind that you
describe, so it's you who needs to produce the arrest records for all of
Canada, for, let's say, the last 20 years, if you expect us to believe you.
Even if you are correct that there were no such arrests anywhere in Canada, it
doesn't prove your original assertion.

Prostitution per se is not a crime in Canada. It's not relevant how old
the prostitute is. So it isn't the 14 year old girls who can or should be
arrested under Canadian law. The girls haven't committed any crime by being
paid for having sex, unless they were caught soliciting for sex, running a
brothel, or forcing other people into prostitution, or certain other
activities.

In the situation that you describe: a child prostitute is simply caught
receiving money for sex from an adult, she is considered to be the victim of a
crime under Canadian law.

So it's the adult client of the child prostitute who is, and who should be,
subject to arrest. A google search turns up a number of stories from reputable
US newspapers, such as the Christian Science Monitor, describing cases in
which such arrests have been made, in particular in Vancouver. I'll provide
links if I can find the full text online.

Your assertion `Prostitution is legal with 14 year olds in Canada,' is thus
false, unless one tortures the English language beyond the breaking point.

Prostitution with 14 year olds is not legal in Canada, because Canadian
Criminal law forbids it. That's consistent with the dictionary definition of
illegal, as far as I know.

Using your logic, I could assert that it is `not illegal' for some 15 million
Mexicans, who don't have US visas, to reside and work in the US, because US
immigration laws are not enforced, or that it's `not illegal'
not to pay income tax in the US, because the IRS never goes after small
businessmen and contractors who make a lot of their money off of the books,
in the cash economy.
 
Versions done it again:D
Yes, they should definitely be out arresting 14 year olds; how dare they victimise them poor johns:D

Want to borrow a crowbar to pry your foot out of your mouth?:p
 
Quote from dpt:

Sorry, but argument doesn't work that way. It was your assertion that
prostitution with 14 year olds is legal in Canada:

I haven't seen where you have proven me wrong anywhere.

Plese post the exact text of the law where it says a 14 year old
old can not receive money for having sex in Canada if she is not
working a street corner and is not located at a brothel or her home
or where she is communicating about or soliciting her "wares".

Taken from a Canadian website:

The dilemma of teen-age prostitution appears to have been exacerbated by the fact that the age of consent for sexual activity was lowered from 16 years of age to 14 years in the 1987 amendments to the Criminal Code. Therefore, youngsters over 14 years of age, both male and female, who are involved in prostitution, can refuse assistance on the ground that they have the authority to give their consent to the sexual activity and that neither the parents nor the police can legally object to it. Added to this, under Canada's prostitution laws, the sale of sex itself is not prohibited, but only the communicating or soliciting of it -- which makes convictions much more difficult to obtain.

If you ask me, it is the French who want to keep their Lolita's
available to themselves in Canada. Otherwise, they would of
made laws to stop this BS already.

Canada is a very liberal place. I think marijuana is just about legal
there too along with topless nude beaches. We can expound on this
subject also or start another thread about it...:p
 
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Versions done it again:D
Yes, they should definitely be out arresting 14 year olds; how dare they victimise them poor johns:D

Want to borrow a crowbar to pry your foot out of your mouth?:p

You sound like it is okay for a 65 year old to screw 14 year olds. If you had a 14
year old daughter yourself I would hope you wouldn't have this attitude.
But it is obvious you already have this attitude anyway. So I guess
it wouldn't matter...

I think you just put your foot in your mouth...:D

Do you want to borrow a crowbar to pry your foot out of your mouth?...:D
 
Quote from version77:
I haven't seen where you have proven me wrong anywhere.

http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partIII/2005/g3-02804.pdf

For people who don't know what the Canada Gazette is, I'll
quote from the introduction.


Part III of the Canada Gazette contains the public Acts
of Canada and certain other ancillary publications, including
a list of Proclamations of Canada and Orders in Council relating
to the coming into force of Acts, from the date of the previous
number to the date shown above.

Go to Chapter 32 of this pdf of Part III of the Canada Gazette, published from
Ottawa, Monday, September 19, 2005.

Find page 252 of the pdf. Look for the paragraph next to the notes in the far
left hand margin:

Offence -- prostitution of person under eighteen

(2) Subsection 212(4) of the Act is replaced by the following:


(4) Every person who, in any place, obtains for consideration,
or communicates with anyone for the purposes of obtaining for
consideration, the sexual services of a person who is under the
age of eighteen years is guilty of an indictable offence
and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years
and to a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of six
months.

Consideration generally means monetary or other reward.

In addition Canadian citizens who sexually abuse children and/or use child
prostitutes whilst travelling can be prosecuted in Canada for a number of
sexual offences under the Criminal Code.

For future reference: Lolita is a wonderful work of fiction written by
a Russian emigre about life in, of all places, the great United States of
America, where the age of consent to sexual activity varies from 13 years of
age to 18 years of age.

In the US there is, of course, no child prostitution whatsoever.

Prostitution with 14 year olds is not legal in Canada. That's a fiction of
your own creation. Personally, I think that between the two of you,
Nabokov is the better writer.
 
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