Age of Consent at 14 Makes Canada Favoured Sex Tourism Destination

Quote from version77:

You sound like it is okay for a 65 year old to screw 14 year olds. If you had a 14
year old daughter yourself I would hope you wouldn't have this attitude.
But it is obvious you already have this attitude anyway. So I guess
it wouldn't matter...

I think you just put your foot in your mouth...:D

Do you want to borrow a crowbar to pry your foot out of your mouth?...:D

Not necessarily, you raise a point there (for a change) what parent would allow that?
Homeless? An effective ward of the state-no way. Particularly, after dpt's extra debunking .
Still, im glad somebody is researching the issue. :)


So, this law you say their introducing, to allow 14 yr olds to own and operate a business, (ie, brothel)........is that being introduced before, or after the





OWNED?:D:D
 
Quote from dpt:

http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partIII/2005/g3-02804.pdf

For people who don't know what the Canada Gazette is, I'll
quote from the introduction.



Go to Chapter 32 of this pdf of Part III of the Canada Gazette, published from
Ottawa, Monday, September 19, 2005.

Find page 252 of the pdf. Look for the paragraph next to the notes in the far
left hand margin:

Offence -- prostitution of person under eighteen


Where does it mention the penalties for the prostitute? And if if this document does make it illegal for
14 year olds to be prostitutes, it took Canada untill 2005 to implement it? Unbelievable...



Consideration generally means monetary or other reward.

In addition Canadian citizens who sexually abuse children and/or use child
prostitutes whilst travelling can be prosecuted in Canada for a number of
sexual offences under the Criminal Code.

For future reference: Lolita is a wonderful work of fiction written by
a Russian emigre about life in, of all places, the great United States of
America, where the age of consent to sexual activity varies from 13 years of
age to 18 years of age.

A wonderful work of pedophila you mean?
So you have read this perverts book? Shame on you.

I can see why you are so much involved in this thread...
:mad:

In the US there is, of course, no child prostitution whatsoever.

Prostitution with 14 year olds is not legal in Canada. That's a fiction of
your own creation. Personally, I think that between the two of you,
Nabokov is the better writer.

Why would you read such a book in the first place?

 

Where does it mention the penalties for the prostitute? And if if this
document does make it illegal for 14 year olds to be prostitutes, it took
Canada untill 2005 to implement it? Unbelievable...

I realize that it's not pleasant for anyone to be proven wrong, but I'm
going to give you a piece of advice. It's much better to be man enough to
admit it when it happens than to attempt to smear your opponents in
argument by insinuating, with no basis whatsoever, that they must have
horrific moral failings.

You should have the good grace to simply admit it when you're proven
wrong.

I have repeatedly explained that there are no penalties for the prostitute
under Canadian law. That fact is simply not material to the question
whether all of your many statements about Canadian law in this thread are
correct or not. Many of them are not correct. You should admit that you
were wrong. It would be the honest and gracious thing to do.

I suggest that you try re-reading the whole wording and description of the
statute carefully. It clearly implies that the wording of the paragraph
containing the statute forbidding the prostitution of people under the age
eighteen was modified in 2005. The statute was in effect before
then, quite obviously. You have to do a more extensive search to find
out when it went into force, and to find out what the modification was.

I suspect, but do not yet know for a fact, that the wording was changed in
order to make the mere act of communicating with anyone in public for the
purpose of procuring the services of a child prostitute equivalent under the
law to the actual act of having sex with the child prostitute. That makes
prosecution much easier, and allows the police to run sting operations to
catch the johns, using adult police officers. Not all of the material seems to
be available online. Specifically I can't yet find the legislation from more
than about 10 years ago.

A wonderful work of pedophila you mean?

Have you read the book?

If not, you're unqualified to venture an opinion about it.

I meant that it is a wonderful work of fiction, in the sense that it is
very well written.

The monstrous plot of the novel is brutally detailed in what surely must
be some of the best English prose in existence. Nabokov created what seems
to be a very convincing portrait of a sexual deviant.

I say seems, since I don't have any personal experience at all with
pedophiles, and I don't have any idea whether it's a true portrait.
It's a work of fiction.

In Lolita, the character Humbert-Humbert is portrayed as a monster,
a horrific man, in my view.

The love affair between Humbert and Lolita is clearly a disaster for
everyone involved. It's not clear to the reader at the start, but Lolita
is for all practical purposes dead as soon as she makes her appearance in
the novel and meets Humbert. In fact, almost every important character in
the book is dead on arrival. Humbert's first wife dies, supposedly of
typhus, his second wife dies of `a bad accident', his second wife's friend
also dies. Lolita's first lover dies in Korea. Then Humbert dies. Then
Lolita dies. Finally Lolita's infant daughter dies.

What is the moral message here? That pedophilia is a good thing?

I don't think so.

So you have read this perverts book? Shame on you.

Being well-read is not something to be ashamed of.

I can see why you are so much involved in this
thread...

I am no more `involved' in this thread than you are, and it's you
who originated the thread. Why did you originate it?

The article you've quoted contains misinformation about Canadian
law. You yourself are also wrong about Canadian law.

I've corrected the misinformation you've spread about the legality of
prostitution with underage people in Canada. It's illegal. The
misinformation you are spreading, if believed by a pedophile, could well
encourage him to go to Canada and try to hire child prostitutes. That is
not something I want to see happening.

Why would you read such a book in the first place?

And what are you insinuating here?
 
v77 proven wrong again and does not have the grace to accept that.

Why don't you put dpt on your ignore list since the member proved that you are wrong... just the way you put me on your ignore list when I proved that you were wrong about women leaders?

:D
 
Quote from dpt:

I realize that it's not pleasant for anyone to be proven wrong, but I'm
going to give you a piece of advice. It's much better to be man enough to
admit it when it happens than to attempt to smear your opponents in
argument by insinuating, with no basis whatsoever, that they must have
horrific moral failings.

You should have the good grace to simply admit it when you're proven
wrong.

Wrong about what? Re-read the thread title again.

Perverts by the droves are going to Canada because the age
of consent is 14. Prostitution is rampant in Canada. They also want
to legalize it completely. Right now, in Canada, a 13 year old can
have sex with a 11 year old. A 14 year old can have sex with a 12
year old. A 12 year old can sex with a 10 year old. As long as the older
one is 2 years or less older than the younger one Canada does
not care. The country needs to get it's **** together.






I have repeatedly explained that there are no penalties for the prostitute
under Canadian law. That fact is simply not material to the question
whether all of your many statements about Canadian law in this thread are
correct or not. Many of them are not correct. You should admit that you
were wrong. It would be the honest and gracious thing to do.

Once again, read the title of this thread. This is what
the thread is really all about. You are trying your best to derail
what this thread is really all about. How about you admit that you
are derailing the thread?


I suggest that you try re-reading the whole wording and description of the
statute carefully. It clearly implies that the wording of the paragraph
containing the statute forbidding the prostitution of people under the age
eighteen was modified in 2005. The statute was in effect before
then, quite obviously. You have to do a more extensive search to find
out when it went into force, and to find out what the modification was.

I suspect, but do not yet know for a fact, that the wording was changed in
order to make the mere act of communicating with anyone in public for the
purpose of procuring the services of a child prostitute equivalent under the
law to the actual act of having sex with the child prostitute. That makes
prosecution much easier, and allows the police to run sting operations to
catch the johns, using adult police officers. Not all of the material seems to
be available online. Specifically I can't yet find the legislation from more
than about 10 years ago.



Have you read the book?

If not, you're unqualified to venture an opinion about it.

BS. Everybody with a brain knows what that book is
about. Why would a normal person read it in the first place? The
books people read tell a lot about the person who reads them.


I meant that it is a wonderful work of fiction, in the sense that it is
very well written.

Sure...

The monstrous plot of the novel is brutally detailed in what surely must
be some of the best English prose in existence. Nabokov created what seems
to be a very convincing portrait of a sexual deviant.

I say seems, since I don't have any personal experience at all with
pedophiles, and I don't have any idea whether it's a true portrait.
It's a work of fiction.

In Lolita, the character Humbert-Humbert is portrayed as a monster,
a horrific man, in my view.

The love affair between Humbert and Lolita is clearly a disaster for
everyone involved. It's not clear to the reader at the start, but Lolita
is for all practical purposes dead as soon as she makes her appearance in
the novel and meets Humbert. In fact, almost every important character in
the book is dead on arrival. Humbert's first wife dies, supposedly of
typhus, his second wife dies of `a bad accident', his second wife's friend
also dies. Lolita's first lover dies in Korea. Then Humbert dies. Then
Lolita dies. Finally Lolita's infant daughter dies.

What is the moral message here? That pedophilia is a good thing?

I don't think so.



Being well-read is not something to be ashamed of.

Don't you think it depends on what is being read?



I am no more `involved' in this thread than you are, and it's you
who originated the thread. Why did you originate it?

Because child prostitution in Canada is a serious
thing. Don't you agree?


The article you've quoted contains misinformation about Canadian
law. You yourself are also wrong about Canadian law.

I've corrected the misinformation you've spread about the legality of
prostitution with underage people in Canada. It's illegal. The
misinformation you are spreading, if believed by a pedophile, could well
encourage him to go to Canada and try to hire child prostitutes. That is
not something I want to see happening.

Perverts are already going to Canada and that is
why a lot of these articles can now be found on the web.




And what are you insinuating here?

You believe I am insinuating something?


 
Quote from tradermaji:

v77 proven wrong again and does not have the grace to accept that.

Why don't you put dpt on your ignore list since the member proved that you are wrong... just the way you put me on your ignore list when I proved that you were wrong about women leaders?

:D

You have never proved anything. I guess it was only a matter of
time before you stuck your nose in this thread. I guess the title
was too inviting, huh?

Try to tell me dpt has proven that the title of this thread is wrong...

He can't. Because it is true. No matter how much it makes Canada
look bad, perhaps even very much perverted.
 
dpt, nice job here. You're arguing with a semi-literate individual who has been schooled in a bunch of different threads. There is no basis for any of these claims - he is just making them up for something to do. As he has stated, he feels that Canadians on here are unfairly maligning Bush so he is lashing out with this cockamamie story about prostitution being 'rampant' up here. Anyone who either lives here or has visited here knows that's ridiculous. There is no more or less prostitution here than any big city.

I think v77 read too many of TorontoTrader's posts. I have said repeatedly that the fanatic TorontoTrader does not even come close to representing the majority opinion up here. Also, there seems to be no lack of US criticism for the current administration's decisions.

v77 is a well-known ET clown. He is a joke; sometimes annoying, sometimes amusing but harmless. Just do a quick search for some of the other threads he has started. Has he called you a homosexual yet? He is a grey-zoner, a prime example of latency if there ever was one, and he'll end up calling you a 'fag' eventually.

I personally wish more people like you, people who can obviously formulate a cogent argument, would spend their time hammering filth like WAKE-UP/PLATO2 and his disgusting ilk.
 
btw, dpt... of course you are right. Lolita is one of the most beautifully written works in English Literature. It is mind-boggling, isn't it, to realize that Nabokov only started writing in English at whatever age it was, in his twenties anyway.

v77 will never be able to grasp Lolita, or Humbert's character, or the central message of the book. He thinks that the author was glorifying pedophilia. That's because he's not literate enough to understand the work. Humbert is a monster and not to be believed. His phony take on the consummation of his obsession ('I am going to tell you something very strange: it was she who seduced me') is transparent to all but the meanest intellect, like v77, who would in any case be unable to read the book because his vocabulary wouldn't cut it.

As Dimitri Nabokov wrote in his Preface to 'The Stories of Vladimir Nabokov',

"But perhaps the deepest, most important theme [in V.N.'s work], be it subject or undercurrent, is [his] contempt for cruelty - the cruelty of humans, the cruelty of fate - and here, the instances are too numerous to mention"

v77's ass-backwards take on Lolita would probably amuse a man of Nabokov's stature. Neither he, nor I (Nabokov's acolyte), suffer fools gladly.
 
Quote from traderNik:

dpt, nice job here. You're arguing with a semi-literate individual who has been schooled in a bunch of different threads. There is no basis for any of these claims - he is just making them up for something to do. As he has stated, he feels that Canadians on here are unfairly maligning Bush so he is lashing out with this cockamamie story about prostitution being 'rampant' up here. Anyone who either lives here or has visited here knows that's ridiculous. There is no more or less prostitution here than any big city.

I think v77 read too many of TorontoTrader's posts. I have said repeatedly that the fanatic TorontoTrader does not even come close to representing the majority opinion up here. Also, there seems to be no lack of US criticism for the current administration's decisions.

v77 is a well-known ET clown. He is a joke; sometimes annoying, sometimes amusing but harmless. Just do a quick search for some of the other threads he has started. Has he called you a homosexual yet? He is a grey-zoner, a prime example of latency if there ever was one, and he'll end up calling you a 'fag' eventually.

I personally wish more people like you, people who can obviously formulate a cogent argument, would spend their time hammering filth like WAKE-UP/PLATO2 and his disgusting ilk.

Another idiot joins the circus. What a clown. Yes, toronto idiot and
just about all other Canadian posters think they are above America
in their posts. JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE
TERRORISTS IN THE WORLD. Or is it because they are in sympathy
with them? Or Canada actually had 3 or 4 soldiers in Iraq get killed?
And blame America for it?

How about the terrorist you let across the border from Victoria into
Washington state that was going to blow up the LA airport? Don't
you have any security up there? Oh, that's right. You let ANYONE
into your country. Nice...

You think I made the article up? What grade did you graduate from?
The 3rd grade?

I have never called anyone a "fag". I bet you have though. Funny
how you keep bringing up the "homo" thing everytime you post.
I guess you enjoy talking about homosexuals? Why?

Why do you lie a lot in your posts? Because you can not use the
truth to "win" your points on ET, that's why..
 
Quote from traderNik:


v77's ass-backwards take on Lolita would probably amuse a man of Nabokov's stature. Neither he, nor I (Nabokov's acolyte), suffer fools gladly.

OMG... another who reads pedophilia literature. I was wondering
why you have been stalking PLATO and WAKE-UP around freaking
out on him calling him a pedo... I can't believe this...:(
 
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