Quote from shortie:
that's what i thought...
Chicken!
Quote from Max E. Pad:
...i will leave ET forever, and tell you who i am.
How does that sound?
Quote from shortie:
sounds like a crappy deal.
but i do have a better deal for you:
i have nothing to prove to somebody who is clearly a chicken hiding under a new alias
BUT
i give you a chance to feel like a real man (probably for the first time in your life): show your real name first and we will talk deals later.
how does that sound?
Quote from LEAPup:
Yes, true. There was nothing else I could do. I still wish I had called in sick that night or whatever. Anything besides being where I was at that that time...
And no, we didn't have tazers back then, nor would a tazer be what I would have taken a chance on going against a gun no matter how crappy that .32 was.
And shortie, I was in the Marine Corps at age 18 in Desert Storm (Enlisted), and became an Officer after College going back to that st&thole again. Yes, I've "been there and done that" in combat. War really is a hell that words cannot describe. I WILL NEVER EVER see that place again! It's a nightmare that I am on a plane, and it "accidently" takes me to, and lands in Baghdad. That one wakes me up along with the images of my Friends who weren't as fortunate as I was...
My shooting a man as a Police Officer still haunts me a little worse than what I did in the sandbox... I don't know exactly why it stands out as being so traumatic, but it just is what it is I guess. I can still hear the crickets chirping between the guy's screaming at me to shoot him. After I fired, I heard no more crickets chirping even though I know they were. I was fixated on what I had just done at a distance of ten feet... That was the only time I had to use my firearm as a Police Officer besides the occasional deer that would be struck on the Interstate, and suffering.
All I was trying to point out earlier is the fact that if you guys are common sense, law-abiding folks who want to protect yourselves and your families from evil people, you have the right to own a firearm, and use it if you have to. There are "side effects" you'll experience if you do ever have to use a firearm to protect yourself. Your chances are very slim that you'll need to resort to shooting a person, but there IS that chance that you may run into a very evil person with very bad intentions for you. The chance is there. My advice is stay out of bad areas of town, steer clear of bars where trouble is known to brew, etc., and use your head. That will give you the best chance of living if you AVOID places where bad things happen more often. i.e., never ignore probabilities... Again, there is that chance of an intrusion into your home, a car jacking, robbed as you walk to your car, from the office, beaten for no reason, etc., That's where a firearm would be necessary. But remember, you're not shooting to kill. You're shooting to live...
Quote from Trader7793:
I currently have a concealed pistol permit here in Michigan as does my mother, and many of my aunts and cousins. None of us have had to shoot anyone and we have all undergone training and the required background checks. I first carried a gun while living in Texas and never had to use my weapon while there. In all likelyhood I will go thru most of my life without having to fire a shot in anger, but I am smart enough to know that if I ever need a gun...then I really, really need it. It means that my life or the lives of my family members is in jeopardy. Think about that for a minute, forget all the propaganda and debate and arguments...if your life, or the life of your wife or daughter is in jeopardy maybe from multiple attackers...that handgun or lack of one might make all the difference between survival and tragedy.
All to often the scenario of the armed law abiding citizen firing wildy into a crowd when attacked has been used to argue for this bizarre concept of its better to be a submissive victim to violent crime. While it is definately possible that an innocent bystander could be hit if a criminal and a potential victim carrying a handgun exchange gunfire, that outcome is not certain. It does not seem to happened very often...in fact it seems quite rare. There have been several high profile shootings here in Michigan where only the criminal was shot and only the criminal died. Also innocent bystanders can be shot and have been in situations where only the criminal was armed!!! I just do not see how being in a situation where only the criminal is armed is somehow safer? Even if the criminal does not have a gun, but has you out numbered...say 5 or 6 guys and you are walking to your car, or taking your girl out for a night on the town and they decide to have some "fun" with her, or just you...having that Sig or Glock could be absolutely crucial at that point. Even if you are not armed, if other decent people are, there is a greater chance that they will at least attempt to help you. Why de-power them? That politician who was so insistent that allowing citizens to carry firearms as a means of self-defense was just too dangerous, usually has armed bodyguards (former Mayor Daley) protecting his/her family. The safety/well being, of your family is just not a priority for them.
Quote from shortie:
an assault rifle stays at home. So this should not create huge problems for somebody who is not invading Swiss houses.
Do they allow hand guns as well? Concealed weapons?