All healthcare should be free period. Free and unlimited. We're talking about human life here. Need an MRI get one FREE OF CHARGE. Need surgery or medication -FREE. No one should be denied based on ability to pay. Free, fast and unlimited for all. Socialize and cap the high salaries, fees and expenses.
Work out? Eat right? You winners of life's lottery . . .
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I'm no socialist by far but healthcare in one area that you don't play the ruthless capitalist.
I agree. We will force doctors and nurses to work for free. Drug companies will be compelled to give away their drugs, and also required to discover new ones, but only if they don't have any nasty side effects and aren't tested on animals.
I can hardly wait.
Everyone won't need them. Some will and will die without them.
Basically, you are agreeing with Sarah Palin. That must really bite for you. Government will decide who gets lifesaving treatment and who doesn't.
Despite having the most costly health system in the world, the United States consistently underperforms on most dimensions of performance, relative to other countries. This reportâan update to three earlier editionsâincludes data from seven countries and incorporates patients' and physicians' survey results on care experiences and ratings on dimensions of care. Compared with six other nationsâAustralia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, and the United Kingdomâthe U.S. health care system ranks last or next-to-last on five dimensions of a high performance health system: quality, access, efficiency, equity, and healthy lives. Newly enacted health reform legislation in the U.S. will start to address these problems by extending coverage to those without and helping to close gaps in coverageâleading to improved disease management, care coordination, and better outcomes over time.
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Content/Publications/Fund-Reports/2010/Jun/Mirror-Mirror-Update.aspx
Our capitalistic style healthcare system is busted, it doesn't work and it's too expensive for what it offers up. We need salaries and big pharm profiteering capped.
Some need them and will die without them in the have-money model, too, so what's your point?
What bites for me? I have, and probably will again, fly as far as Costa Rica for certain healthcare services, because I have money (and the ROI is positive). And I'm not feeling "overburdened" by taxes either, so I have no reason to begrudge those others who get a basic level of care via socialization. Like I said, it's the best of both worlds; Palin has nothing to do with that. (Her death panel label is pure politics, though, as it could as logically been called a life panel.)
I'm repulsed by such irresponsible proposals. What's the incentive to take care of yourself other than to prolong your life? Your reward -- paying for the fat slobs who consciously choose to eat Big Macs, fries, drink excessively, smoke, do drugs, don't exercise -- or any combination thereof.
Next - the cost is already out of line totally. Case in point. I had a minor 35 minute surgery as outpatient yesterday. Surgeons charge was about $650 of which I paid $200 and insurance paid $450. What did the hospital want? Close to $15,000. Surgery started at 10:30 and I was out of there at 12:45.
Last, I (with my wife) pay our own premiums and out of pocket costs and have no desire to pay for those who are too irresponsible to take care of themselves both physically and financially.
Bottom line is that those who are health conscious - who work out and eat healthy - get to subsidize the vast majority of Americans who are overweight (66% in one study) and illness prone.
How would you feel pulling your own freight by paying it all out of pocket?