Why would any educated woman be a christian? christianity hates women.

For me, this pretty much sums it up, irrespective of one's gender:

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However, true to form, note that the woman was at fault.
 

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lest you think keeping women in second class position is something from the past and does not happen anymore. think again. a church i used to attend and still keep in touch with member friends does not allow women in any position of leadership. as a woman member you can advance no further than a sunday school teacher. you can not be a pastor,a church elder, on the leadership committee or even an usher. you are not allowed to give men direction. you are only allowed to follow direction.
the women seem to have no problem with it. i never heard any public complaints. muslim women who have to cover their faces seem to have no problem either. brainwashing is a powerful force.
 
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lest you think keeping women in second class position is something from the past and does not happen anymore. think again. a church i used to attend and still keep in touch with member friends does not allow women in any position of leadership. as a woman member you can advance no further than a sunday school teacher. you can not be a pastor,a church elder, on the leadership committee or even an usher. you are not allowed to give men direction. you are only allowed to follow direction.
the women seem to have no problem with it. i never heard any public complaints. muslim women who have to cover their faces seem to have no problem either. brainwashing is a powerful force.

Sounds like a Plymouth Brethren assembly. But could be a number of others. In Brethren, women also have to cover their heads.
 
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...the women seem to have no problem with it. i never heard any public complaints. muslim women who have to cover their faces seem to have no problem either. brainwashing is a powerful force.

It's called socialization. You don't wear a dress, do you? And yet there is nothing fundamentally wrong with a man in a "dress". I put dress in quotes because in another culture it's called a kilt, which is ok for a man to wear.
 
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Sounds like a Plymouth Brethren assembly. But could be a number of others. In Brethren, women also have to cover their heads.
no it was a breakaway sect of baptists. nothing out of the mainstream other that they believe the bible 100% literal. there were no written rules on dress. most men and women dressed casual. some of the younger girls pushed the limits with short shorts. every once in a while you would get a sermon on modest dress.
 
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You say socialization, I say subordination. You say tomahto, I say tomato.

They are not interchangeable terms. Socialization also includes superordination.
 
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education is the best weapon against superstition:


Then I suppose that makes you an educator of sorts.

Tell me, what is the name of the teaching/education method you're using called? You know, where the "educator" is self righteous, arrogant, demeaning and condescending? I'm not familiar with that method. Are they using it in schools somewhere?


My point being your potential "students" might be more receptive of your lectures, such as they are, if you weren't such a dick about it all.
 
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Then I suppose that makes you an educator of sorts.

Tell me, what is the name of the teaching/education method you're using called? You know, where the "educator" is self righteous, arrogant, demeaning and condescending? I'm not familiar with that method. Are they using it in schools somewhere?


My point being your potential "students" might be more receptive of your lectures, such as they are, if you weren't such a dick about it all.

The way to deal with superstition is not to be polite to it, but to tackle it with all arms, and so rout it, cripple it, and make it forever infamous and ridiculous.--- Henry Louis Mencken
 
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Then I suppose that makes you an educator of sorts.

Tell me, what is the name of the teaching/education method you're using called? You know, where the "educator" is self righteous, arrogant, demeaning and condescending? I'm not familiar with that method. Are they using it in schools somewhere?


My point being your potential "students" might be more receptive of your lectures, such as they are, if you weren't such a dick about it all.

When it comes to matters of faith, there is no nice, cordial, or respectful way to present opposing or damning discourse - according to the POV of the person who has the faith. No matter how it is presented, if not presented by someone claiming to share the exact variant of the faith, it will be considered an attack upon the faith to one degree or another. So why bother with pretense?

That's what makes Mencken's quote above so poignant.
 
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