Why the US has so much trouble with COVID-19

SunTrader said:
I have two cotton masks and yes I do trust good old cotton, wherever it was grown and sewn together in another country. Same as most (likely all) of my clothes. Although I did lol first consider gargling with clorox as a first line of defense.

But people in FL won't ... because OrangeMan jr in Tallahassee won't mandate and enforce it, like states up north did. Otherwise how do you explain numbers dropping in states that did this?
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No people in Florida won’t because they are stubborn and want to do whatever they want to do regardless of how it affects others. Numbers dropping....the natural life of the virus. It will pass. So surge it is really the people. Mandating won’t work cause they can’t and won’t enforce it. The only thing that will work is martial law. Soldiers on the streets making stubborn ass people stay home.

Here is what they do in Honduras if they catch you breaking curfew.

Entries and exits to neighborhood are manned. You can go out once every 2 to 3 weeks to go to bank, pharmacy, or buy groceries. It is controlled by your identification card. Last digit numbers on card are allowed to exit on such and such a day. They catch you breaking rules and you gonna go to the stocks or jail. Try driving out of your neighborhood and they will spray you and your car down with clorox and water.

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clockwork71 said:
Oh, so its all politics. You are probably one of the truly enlightened inclusive people out there thay preach 'tolerance', but only for those that agree w/ you. Also, look at the worst hit: NYC, LA, SF, Chicago.....all bastions of conservative values I am sure. But its ok, because "My gang better than yours."

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Anyone else find it odd that nobody on this forum can do statistical analysis? The rate of death is minute to say the least. Also, if it is so contagious, they will be NO STOPPING IT. Also, look how much NYC was locked down, and where I live in Ohio, we have been seeing varying degrees of lock downs. Its all bullshit quite frankly.

The only thing that is consistently dying is the businesses out there. Anyway, back to life, I don't have time to live in fear. I am not sure exactly which one of you plan on living forever, but I have bad news for you...
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No Covid 19 is not politics . It is people dying. Open your eyes and shut your mouth.

When is the last time you were outside of the county? Or read an actual newspaper - paper or digital? In this lifetime.

Yes NY and other places got hit hard because CV 19 doesn't care where it strikes. But they got their act together finally. While down here in Florida we have more deaths than all but 8 countries in the world - averaging 100 per day for the last week. You would think after someplace else in the USA suffers we wouldn't. But that would be expecting too much from the ignorant (the constitution says I don't have to wear a mask nonsense) among us.
 
volpri said:
No people in Florida won’t because they are stubborn and want to do whatever they want to do regardless of how it affects others...
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I reference Florida in most of my posts only because it is my home but Texas, Arizona and California are exploding as well. And the numbers are rising, not declining, in more than half of the other 50 states. Just not as dramatically.

Listen I am no germophobe or phobe of any kind and I barely take an Advil once every few years. But what I do is have a fruit smoothie every morning - real, fresh fruit no yogurt or other any other dairy chit. A salad most days for lunch. And chicken, fish, veggies and occasional potato or pasta for dinner. I have no underlying health conditions and exercise at the gym and cardio bike riding in morning before it gets too hot or in evening before shutting down.

I probably have nothing to worry about. My concern is for those who do have something to worry about. And I am not so willing to write them off as some apparently are.

Then we have the Prez role model being flippant, ignorant and concerned only with what this will do to him politically.

I remember many years ago NBA basketball player Charles Barkley getting flack for saying he wasn't a role model in a Nike commercial. Who knew he was talking about the Prez to come.
 
volpri said:
Ok if they are truly massaging the numbers then the question becomes why? So why?
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Anything I say after that would be a theory. At least you are able to see that they are lying about the numbers. The question that smart people should be asking is why are they lying about the numbers if their intentions are on the up and up.
 
Money Trust said:
I see you missed the article I posted in this thread yesterday showing that Texas was lying about their numbers....
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There's other countries too but I have not reposted them...this one is recently new.

You saying that all those countries involved are working together to pull a fast one over all the governments to cause lockdowns, lost jobs and trillions of dollars hurt to the economies or you're just citing a few exceptions ?

Did you see the links I posted earlier that shows that some states are getting more money from the government for keeping their Covid-19 cases "low" ?

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wrbtrader said:
There's other countries too but I have not reposted them...this one is recently new.

You saying that all those countries involved are working together to pull a fast one over all the governments to cause lockdowns, lost jobs and trillions of dollars hurt to the economies or you're just citing a few exceptions ?

Did you see the links I posted earlier that shows that some states are getting more money from the government for keeping their Covid-19 cases "low" ?

wrbtrader
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Right, numbers reported are significantly undercounted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/27/health/coronavirus-antibodies-asymptomatic.html

This will kill millions worldwide by spring. It is the biggest hazard to our survival we'll face in our lifetimes.

Do not underestimate the grave danger we're in. Watch the upcoming shocking death count during next 2 weeks in southern states.
 
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