Why creation science is an oxymoron

Not at all, I am questioning why people are using a hammer, and demanding of everyone that a hammer be used when a hole needs to be drilled...

Quote from killthesunshine:

i've read your post let me get this straight..

you are questioning the efficacy of reason, rationality and logic? science?

in place you propose to throw us back into the "Dark Ages" of witch burning? :eek:
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Not at all, I am questioning why people are using a hammer, and demanding of everyone that a hammer be used when a hole needs to be drilled...

you question 10's of thousands of years the use of reason, rationality and logic? science?
ROFL! :D

and what do you propose in its place THAT HAS PROVEN EFFICACY? :D
 
One very simple question:

Can any method of scientific observation yield knowledge of the entirety of the universe?

Not guesses, but actual evidence of the entirety of the universe.

p.s. I doubt you can stay on track, you will start with the emoticons and usual clownish behavior, and I would glad if you proved me wrong by engaging in an adult civilized discussion.

Quote from killthesunshine:

you question 10's of thousands of years the use of reason, rationality and logic? science?
ROFL! :D

and what do you propose in its place THAT HAS PROVEN EFFICACY? :D
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

One very simple question:

Can any method of scientific observation yield knowledge of the entirety of the universe?

Not guesses, but actual evidence of the entirety of the universe.

p.s. I doubt you can stay on track, you will start with the emoticons and usual clownish behavior, and I would glad if you proved me wrong by engaging in an adult civilized discussion.

no it cannot, nor does it claim such.

can any "method" of religious "discovery" yield [reliable] knowledge of the entirety of the universe?

"Not guesses, but actual evidence of the entirety of the universe." :D
 
So scientists have opinions that there is no entirety of the universe, because they cannot validate the entirety of the universe with scientific means of observation?

I think you will find the reverse is true, that scientists do hold that there is an entirety of the universe, whether finite or infinite even though they have no means of verification through measurement.

In fact, I think most scientist now only believe there is an entirety of the universe, they would say they know there is an entirety of the universe.

How could they know, when they cannot test that knowledge with scientific instrumentation?

Try to stay on point. I know this is hard for you to do, but try to stay on point. Force yourself to think on a deeper level.



Quote from killthesunshine:

no it cannot, nor does it claim such.

can any "method" of religious "discovery" yield [reliable] knowledge of the entirety of the universe?

"Not guesses, but actual evidence of the entirety of the universe." :D
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

So scientists have opinions that there is no entirety of the universe, because they cannot validate the entirety of the universe with scientific means of observation?

I think you will find the reverse is true, that scientists do hold that there is an entirety of the universe, whether finite or infinite even though they have no means of verification through measurement.

In fact, I think most scientist now only believe there is an entirety of the universe, they would say they know there is an entirety of the universe.

How could they know, when they cannot test that knowledge with scientific instrumentation?

Try to stay on point. I know this is hard for you to do, but try to stay on point. Force yourself to think on a deeper level.

i love locking horns with you! :D

ps opinion, from a scientist or a crank or a religious pundit is not fact.

i love locking horns with you!

like shooting fish in a barrel :D
 
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