Why can't I get a job? Recent Grad, 3.7 GPA, Good Exp, Year and a half of searching..

Quote from Trader666:

You've probably been told that because your sense of entitlement is out of control as documented by your statement here which is very telling:

if people don’t tip me, they are not paying for my services. That is stealing from me.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2456949&highlight=stealing#post2456949

You're wrong about "cheap housing" and while there's some truth to the rest of your "bitch list," you're totally ignoring advantages and opportunities YOU have today that baby boomers didn't.

And the Boomers are not responsible for the debt mess and unfunded entitlements. It was the DAMNED POLITICIANS... I never once heard a Boomer demand something from the government and say, "charge it to my kids and grandkids".
 
Quote from Trader666:

You're wrong about "cheap housing" and while there's some truth to the rest of your "bitch list," you're totally ignoring advantages and opportunities YOU have today that baby boomers didn't.
What are some of these "advantages"? The younger generation has access to technology that the boomers didn't have. Honestly, that's the only advantage that I can think of.

There are very few professions that allow the current generation to earn a comfortable wage without an advanced degree. Nursing is really the one, and that's only because the demand is kept artificially high by the NLNAC.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

Government sector not only gets bigger, it's also getting PAY RAISES... all the while, the private sector is still getting smaller... more lay offs, pay cuts.

It doesn't work when EVERYONE is a government employee... that's where we're headed. Government gets its money from the private sector you know. :mad:
Yea this bothers me a little bit. How come everybody else has to cut back but not the government or its employees? But then again why are we complaining about little government employees getting raises when huge corporations are laying people off by the thousands and shipping their jobs to India to save a buck? Then when they hire people here they try to get all the cheap foreigners they can get.

It seems to me that cutting government spending now would just increase unemployment because it doesn’t seem like too many corporations would actually make up for it by hiring Americans to work in America for the benefit of America.
 
Quote from Trader666:

I think that show would be a great idea too because some (like you) need a reality check:

...research suggests that young adults today are more self-centered than previous generations. For a multiuniversity study released this year, 16,475 college students took the standardized narcissistic personality inventory, responding to such statements as "I think I am a special person." Students' scores have risen steadily since the test was first offered in 1982. The average college student in 2006 was 30% more narcissistic than the average student in 1982.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117702894815776259.html

If you adjust tuition costs for inflation, they've outpaced it but it's not as bad as you make it out to be... BTW adjusted costs were less for our parents than they were for us but we didn't constantly whine about it. But housing is WAY more affordable for you now than it was during the recession of the early 80s when unemployment was also near 10% and housing affordability was at a 40 year low:
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/housing-affordability-at-record-high/
Wow you’re really losing it again. The best thing you can think of is my generation thinks we’re so special? As Seth and Amy would say – Really? Cause nobody ever told me I was special. Now I look at that little girl that made it to the quarter finals last week at the US Open, now that’s something to be proud about. Nobody is special unless they earn it.

The evidence is so overwhelming that the cost of living has risen significantly more than wages in the past 30 years that I wouldn’t no where to start. Just look over the past 10 years at education, housing and medical costs. There is no way in hell average wages have kept up with that. That’s the whole goal of fractional reserve lending that started in the 70’s. You live in a fantasy world where some stupid university study somehow trumps the experiences of everyday Americans. My parents bought our house in 1984 for 60k. Now it’s worth around 300k and you’re trying to tell me housing is more affordable now? Has minimum wage gone up 500% since then?
 
Quote from Trader666:

You've probably been told that because your sense of entitlement is out of control as documented by your statement here which is very telling:

if people don’t tip me, they are not paying for my services. That is stealing from me.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2456949&highlight=stealing#post2456949

You're wrong about "cheap housing" and while there's some truth to the rest of your "bitch list," you're totally ignoring advantages and opportunities YOU have today that baby boomers didn't.
As pointed out, the internet is an incredible advantage, but besides that I can’t think of much. But why do you think that would somehow stop me? I just started a new job, I don’t care about any kind of recession. I’m just going to keep plugging away. Oh and not tipping the pizza guy is stealing. You just don’t like the little guy who provides a service and wants to be paid for it. Fortunately, most people disagree with you.
 
Quote from aegis:

"... There are very few professions that allow the current generation to earn a comfortable wage without an advanced degree. Nursing is really the one, and that's only because the demand is kept artificially high by the NLNAC.

The American middle class was fortunate to develop as it did... such that a kid could graduate from HS (or even drop out before) and get a "good job", well-paying, at the local factory, plant, or mill.... thanks to both union influence and lack of competition.

Nearly all of that is gone now. Most well paying jobs today have STIFF competition.

American citizens and especially the US Government needs to acknowledge this and make the appropriate adjustment... have not done so yet... still hoping to "bring back the glory days"... NO WAY, HOSE-A!
 
Sandybestdog -- whether you choose to accept it or not, the Housing Affordability Index and a study quantifying the narcissism of tens of thousands of students each year for 20+ years are more objective measures than your subjective world view that revolves around your sense of entitlement and victimhood.

Maybe if you can get to the point where you understand that you're not entitled to tips, you'll be able to move beyond whining and focus instead on how to make the best of the opportunities you do have.
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Quote from pitz:

Yup. I graduated in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in 2002, nearly the top of my class. Been applying ever since. Rarely do I even get replies to my applications, nevermind actual employment opportunities. They've taken all these jobs and shipped them to India/China, and what hasn't been shipped there, has been given to H1-B's and foreigners. Engineering definitely isn't a way to avoid the unemployment line. Going into EE ruined my life. There is no demand for EE's, especially not the bright ones who would ordinarily be working in R&D, bu who now, if they can even find employment, usually have to settle for jobs that can be done by technicians.

I agree with the other poster that said you must be hiding something. You sat around for 7 years filling out applications????? Do any internships? Have any experience? Ask for $120K coming out of college?

I find your claim extremely extremely unlikely unless you went to some place like DeVry or had serious mental problems. Computer Sci grads and EE grads in the USA had very very very strong hiring after 2002 until near the present. In fact, the unemployment rate in those fields was less than 2% until the financial crisis hit.
 
Quote from TraderZones:

I agree with the other poster that said you must be hiding something. You sat around for 7 years filling out applications????? Do any internships? Have any experience? Ask for $120K coming out of college?


As I told you, I am not hiding anything. My applications, then, and now, rarely even received responses -- same deal with most of my fellow graduates, and most of the people I know who even attended other universities. And I most certainly did not ask for $120k or anything like that. In fact, I don't think I've ever stated a salary expectation.

I find your claim extremely extremely unlikely unless you went to some place like DeVry or had serious mental problems. Computer Sci grads and EE grads in the USA had very very very strong hiring after 2002 until near the present. In fact, the unemployment rate in those fields was less than 2% until the financial crisis hit.

Not true, no mental problems or DeVry here (as I said earlier, I went to a top-20 institution). EE employment has constantly been dropping. The only reason 'unemployment' in EE has dropped because many people simply packed it in and left the field. Firms were laying people off heavily in 2002, 2003, 2004, and hiring never really resumed until 2005 -- and then, when hiring did resume, it was just H1-B's and foreigners. Entire industries have, or are dissappearing from the USA in the EE field, for instance, semiconductor fabs have almost completely dissappeared from the Silicon Valley, along with most of its 'hardware' industry. Starting salaries haven't moved in a decade, and in many cases, have actually shrunk.

Exacerbating the problem is my academic background which was heavily rooted in an area of study that has largely been offshored and outsourced -- the development of communications hardware/software, and embedded systems programming. When I do get one of those rare interviews, I'm up against guys who have been in the field for 15 years, but who were laid off by the likes of Nortel, JDSU, Cisco, Qualcomm, etc. There is no entry-level hiring of US citizen grads. And entry-level jobs in the industry now require 5-8 years of experience if you go by the job ads. Where is a person supposed to get that experience, if they can't get hired into even an entry-level job? The tech sector is pretty much completely devoid of Americans under 35 at this point in time because of this sort of nonsense. And the people who remain in the sector haven't gotten any raises, and are afraid for their jobs every day they work. That's how bad it is out there.
 
In regards to electrical engineering, check out the BLS: http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm

Scroll down to electrical engineers. Five percent projected job growth from 2006-2016. That's about 1500 new jobs per year. 1500 jobs ain't shit. How many people are graduating each year with electrical engineering degrees? A lot more than 1500.
 
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