Why can't I get a job? Recent Grad, 3.7 GPA, Good Exp, Year and a half of searching..

[zdreg]

Quote from pitz:

Yup. I graduated in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in 2002, nearly the top of my class. Been applying ever since. Rarely do I even get replies to my applications, nevermind actual employment opportunities. They've taken all these jobs and shipped them to India/China, and what hasn't been shipped there, has been given to H1-B's and foreigners. Engineering definitely isn't a way to avoid the unemployment line. Going into EE ruined my life. There is no demand for EE's, especially not the bright ones who would ordinarily be working in R&D, bu who now, if they can even find employment, usually have to settle for jobs that can be done by technicians.

this is a sad commentary on the US. u have public school teachers who basically have no responsibility but 25 years + experience are making $80,000+ with large benefits.priorities are completely up side down in the US>

 

[larrybf]

hey losers................ all these jobs you talking about are being outsourced to India as i write this......................wake up losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111

 

[aegis]

Quote from larrybf:

hey losers................ all these jobs you talking about are being outsourced to India as i write this......................wake up losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111

LOL, true.

 

[nelsanity]

Quote from pitz:

Yup. I graduated in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in 2002, nearly the top of my class. Been applying ever since. Rarely do I even get replies to my applications, nevermind actual employment opportunities. They've taken all these jobs and shipped them to India/China, and what hasn't been shipped there, has been given to H1-B's and foreigners. Engineering definitely isn't a way to avoid the unemployment line. Going into EE ruined my life. There is no demand for EE's, especially not the bright ones who would ordinarily be working in R&D, bu who now, if they can even find employment, usually have to settle for jobs that can be done by technicians.

Well not getting a job in the field 7 years after graduation leads me to believe you are hiding something else.

 

[nelsanity]

Id say the degree is important. All else equal BS > BA. Hiring managers don't want to risk hiring someone who doesn't know how to think quantitatively. BS gives them slightly more confidence over BA. Similar and even more pronounced when you compare degrees... Eng vs English,Philosophy,Media etc. Then there is the caliber of the school you are at...which amplifies these even further.

When you mix these variables up all at once you can get into the whole debate, that is ultimately very subjective, of BA in management from school XYZ vs BS EE from ABC.


The hiring manager wants to spend as little time training you into who he wants you to become as possible. What you add to his team, he doesn't want to come at the expense of stealing his thunder.

 

[peilthetraveler]

Quote from pitz:

Yup. I graduated in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in 2002, nearly the top of my class. Been applying ever since. Rarely do I even get replies to my applications, nevermind actual employment opportunities. They've taken all these jobs and shipped them to India/China, and what hasn't been shipped there, has been given to H1-B's and foreigners. Engineering definitely isn't a way to avoid the unemployment line. Going into EE ruined my life. There is no demand for EE's, especially not the bright ones who would ordinarily be working in R&D, bu who now, if they can even find employment, usually have to settle for jobs that can be done by technicians.

Dont worry, with the coming economic collapse of the dollar, it will equal the rupee in the next 2 years and people will finally start hiring in the US again. Of course the 80k per year they pay you will only have about 5k worth of todays buying power...

 

[INeedAJob]

I took beginning and intermediate microeconomics as well as mathematical statistics. They had heavy multivariable calculus. I got A’s, broke the curves and had half the class coming to me for help. I have a business minor so I took all the core Finance BS classes too.

 

[hoffmanw]

Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

sorry, my mother has 25 years experience, a masters degree, and much credit towards a phd, is a teacher, and does not make near 80k, and lives in a high income county... you have been misled

My friend is an elementary teacher in NYC. He has a master degree and 11 year experiences rather. He is making well over $80,000 now. Thanks to Mike Bloomberg. He just gets another 8% salary increase this year.

 

[pitz]

Quote from nelsanity:

Well not getting a job in the field 7 years after graduation leads me to believe you are hiding something else.

Not hiding anything. The tech industry never revived itself after the crash, and the only people hired have been foreigners. My whole graduating class is the same way. And the few who did manage to get jobs have been exposed to constant layoffs, downsizings, and have had absolutely no bargaining power with their employer for a living wage. Its nothing short of a disaster.

And I went to a top-20 engineering school. Not some state college. Heck, even ivy league graduates in engineering for most of the past decade are having serious problems in the job market.

Only a dying, collapsing country and economy would leave their best and brightest talent unemployed, while enriching people who add absolutely nothing of value to the economy (ie: bankers).

 

[Eight]

Quote from pitz:

Not hiding anything. The tech industry never revived itself after the crash, and the only people hired have been foreigners. My whole graduating class is the same way. And the few who did manage to get jobs have been exposed to constant layoffs, downsizings, and have had absolutely no bargaining power with their employer for a living wage. Its nothing short of a disaster.

And I went to a top-20 engineering school. Not some state college. Heck, even ivy league graduates in engineering for most of the past decade are having serious problems in the job market.

Only a dying, collapsing country and economy would leave their best and brightest talent unemployed, while enriching people who add absolutely nothing of value to the economy (ie: bankers).

Can't beat 'em =join 'em... I transitioned out of Engineering and started studying trading a few years ago... civilizations go through phases, we seem to be about 40 years behind the UK, they go from manufacturing to finance to collapse probably, might as well cash in before the collapse.. look who we elected, it's not like anybody is going to stave off anything that is inevitable...