Where are the bears?

also most of these bearish predictions are just pulled out of thin air, or out of butt-hurt lol... dude misses the bull now he hating and go short lol.

take aapl for example.... them selling bond on open market for 2% yield, turns around buying back stocks yielding 5%... this is not gonna stop until the stock yields what... 2.5%, so the gap is only 0.5% too small to worth the buy back?

so what does it mean, aapl should be $500 today? it's certainly going there lol.... stuff like this my pro boys ain't gonna publish it so every speculator will come in for the ride... them boys gonna shake and bake and week out the short term guys and make sure at the end of the day they control every share possible when it actually gets to $500.

this is fairly common across the sp500 spectrum.. DOW 40000 actually has a fundamental background to it..

saying the market is gonna crash 50% is just something pulled out of ass lol. people have such closed minds.... they look back 20 years so a crash is due? such low resolution thinking.
 
S2007S said:
Ha I took upside heat for the last 10 years so I can keep going. This bull market is way too old, it will be over soon. Yes I have traded long here and there, but most of the time I'm short. I do have a retirement account that of course is long everything. I have 100% invested but that's my retirement account, its up 20% YTD and Its mostly small caps. I thought about moving everything out going to bonds and waiting for a small correction of 5% and .moving it back in as I just cant see this continuing year after year, but All new money in 2020 going into my retirement is going to be bonds.
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In all due respect, if 100% of your retirement account is long equity, you are not a bear, just a closet bull. :finger:
 
Handle123 said:
My system been shorting Index futures/hedged for last 2.5 years and will continue to do so till it finds the top, system is always early...
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Sigh, wish there were a book which could explain hedging in trading that way it's done by you, Handle123. I wouldn't know where to start to hold longer positions through hedging (and not get blown-out along the way), coming from simple futures day trading which, for me, lasts from 1-30 mins a go.
 
Currently I'm a YM BEAR Growwwlllll, holding short from 27306, 27286 here and falling, but in 10mins time I'm sure I'll be a YM Bull :)

Day Traders, just jump on the momo, most of us in ET are such so we be good :)

Trade what you see, ignore the politics!!
 
Ouch indeed. These days I only trade the after hours YM. The day sessions have just become too much of a snake pit with mine fields. But that's a discussion for another thread.. here I'm going to ask - last eve (Oct 31) I was in a trade getting frustrated waiting for a move up, until I finally had to exit with a very small net gain of couple YM ticks. A few minutes later, I believe it was around 6:40 Pacific time where I am, it took one of those sudden large moves, this time to the upside. Then it proceeded to stay there and creep further up for most of the rest of the night until the jobs report was released.

Call me paranoid (and some of you no doubt will), but looks to me like last night some insider got advance info of what was in the jobs report this morning. The shenanigans I usually see in the day market are stop-hunting, and the market-moving program trading by the large institutions e.g. Sachs. But I don't often see something that convinces me someone is getting advance insider info. My impression is, I saw just that last night. And with tRump's cronies running the SEC, you can bet no one is watching for insider trading scofflaws anymore.

Speculations anyone?
 
dozu888 said:
also most of these bearish predictions are just pulled out of thin air, or out of butt-hurt lol... dude misses the bull now he hating and go short lol.

take aapl for example.... them selling bond on open market for 2% yield, turns around buying back stocks yielding 5%... this is not gonna stop until the stock yields what... 2.5%, so the gap is only 0.5% too small to worth the buy back?

so what does it mean, aapl should be $500 today? it's certainly going there lol.... stuff like this my pro boys ain't gonna publish it so every speculator will come in for the ride... them boys gonna shake and bake and week out the short term guys and make sure at the end of the day they control every share possible when it actually gets to $500.

this is fairly common across the sp500 spectrum.. DOW 40000 actually has a fundamental background to it..

saying the market is gonna crash 50% is just something pulled out of ass lol. people have such closed minds.... they look back 20 years so a crash is due? such low resolution thinking.
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$500 apple predicted?

That's like a $2.5 trillion market cap...haaaa

No way possible. Unless you think $500 in 15 years maybe.
 
S2007S said:
Ha I took upside heat for the last 10 years so I can keep going. This bull market is way too old, it will be over soon.
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The 1982-2000 bull lasted for 18 years with a couple of brief interruptions, so I'm not sure how you can claim that a 10-year-old bull market is "too old".

Also, serious bear markets don't just happen randomly, but for clearly discernible reasons. What's going to cause the average pro money manager to take his equity allocation down by ten percentage points? It's going to take more than stocks being a bit expensive; these days, pretty much every asset class is expensive.
 
its going to be bibilcal. the reasons will be discernible in hindsight but everyone has been saying it since 2009. the fed can't ask congress for 300bn this time. by the time it reaches 3088 all 401k's will be full
 
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