Again w/the assumptions. I haven't read the bill, but I very much doubt someone strapped for cash was having "lavish funerals" w/the hopes uncle Sam would pick up the tab. The dead don't care about the debt they're leaving their loved ones, so this money is very much going to the alive.
What's in the $1.9 trillion Covid bill Biden just signed? You might be surprised.
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Any funeral is lavish and over the top to me personally. I think of it as a luxury expense. Not a necessary one like food, water, shelter, clean air, clothing, healthcare, etc. It's an industry I would like to see depleted.
Flying is lavish and over the top to me personally. I think of it as a luxury expense when we have greyhound. Yet you support their bailout. Cruise ships got it too, and those are pretty lavish.
https://news.yahoo.com/one-lucky-bo...t-to-shore-up-small-businesses-140929722.html
One lucky borrower got 17 PPP loans: How the Trump administration lost millions in an effort to shore up small businesses
While the Paycheck Protection Program has been subject to fraud, the revelations contained in a new report by the inspector general of the Small Business Administration speak instead to a faulty — and costly — implementation.
Aging federal technology may have hampered the SBA’s inability to track and cross-reference loans. Two years ago, the Government Accountability Office found that information systems across the federal government were badly outdated. Some computer hardware at the SBA was a decade old, that investigation found.
A series of malfunctions took place in the spring and summer of 2020, resulting in millions of taxpayer dollars being handed out inadvertently as duplicate loans. In all, SBA Inspector General Mike Ware found, banks authorized to issue PPP loans “made more than one PPP disbursement to 4,260 borrowers, which totaled about $692 million and involved 8,731 PPP loans.”
One lucky borrower got 17 PPP loans: How the Trump administration lost millions in an effort to shore up small businesses
While the Paycheck Protection Program has been subject to fraud, the revelations contained in a new report by the inspector general of the Small Business Administration speak instead to a faulty — and costly — implementation.
Aging federal technology may have hampered the SBA’s inability to track and cross-reference loans. Two years ago, the Government Accountability Office found that information systems across the federal government were badly outdated. Some computer hardware at the SBA was a decade old, that investigation found.
A series of malfunctions took place in the spring and summer of 2020, resulting in millions of taxpayer dollars being handed out inadvertently as duplicate loans. In all, SBA Inspector General Mike Ware found, banks authorized to issue PPP loans “made more than one PPP disbursement to 4,260 borrowers, which totaled about $692 million and involved 8,731 PPP loans.”
I don't support giving people airline/cruise ship vouchers. The fact is that airlines/cruise carriers are businesses that were effected by the pandemic. If you believe time is money then yes, airlines are pretty essential to our economy. Even though I think funerals are a waste of money, I support funeral homes getting a combination of money/loans just like the airlines. I support their laid off employees of funeral homes getting unemployment checks.
You should, this is what capitalism should be, letting people choose winners not letting the government play favorites and industry cashing in favors through bribery. If funerals are an extravagance, why would you support bailing out the industry? Aren't they responsible for the exorbitant funeral costs you complain about? Why shouldn't someone be able to buy a coffin on Amazon and have their loved one interred in it? (actually know of an anecdote like this).
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=human+casket&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
My airline argument served two purposes. One, to call you out on arguing in bad faith by being edgy on funerals, and two, if serious about your belief system, to show you how fringe you sound by showing a counter argument. Most people don't find a funeral or an air flight an unreasonable activity.
So...if we let every business fail, because of a pandemic it would completely destroy the economy. It's not always easy to start a business up again when things rebound and it puts us at a disadvantage. When we are talking about letting businesses fail we are talking about livelihoods of people. When we are talking about not paying for funerals we are telling people to mourn without our tax dollars.
Having someone incur extra debt is putting people at a disadvantage and affecting someone's livelihood. I added an extra paragraph on previous post. As to bail outs:
I don't support letting funeral homes or any previously viable businesses fail from the pandemic, because I'm not going to pick winners and losers based on my personal preferences. I also support strip clubs getting assistance and I don't frequent those either. However, they're a legal business. People enjoy them.