What's in the $1.9 trillion Covid bill Biden just signed? You might be surprised.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/what-s-1-9-trillion-covid-bill-biden-just-signed-n1260719

Funeral expenses, student debt, seriously? This bill is such a joke. Now we're just giving away money for unnecessary decisions people make. I don't believe the approval ratings some of these pollsters are showing for it. The debt is skyrocketing. There is nothing that is more overpriced/a bigger waste of money in the country than a funeral. Now the taxpayers are paying for them? Homeless people everywhere, but we're giving tax dollars for mourning expenses?
 
Here4money said:
Oh? Did people not die from COVID, funeral homes stop charging and students were not affected in their part time jobs?
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So we should pay for everything for everybody? Funeral homes are not a necessary expense. They are mostly a religious ceremony. Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Literally everybody is going to die. If your family wants to have a lavish funeral they can pay for it themselves. In my opinion, they're a complete waste of money. Not one cent of tax dollars should go towards reimbursing them. As for student debt, if they wanted to defer payments for a year I would be fine with it. Canceling debt is a bailout for those who didn't take their job prospects post-education seriously when they majored in art history. What about everybody who went to school, got a good job, and paid their bills?
 
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kmgilroy89 said:
So we should pay for everything for everybody? Funeral homes are not a necessary expense. They are mostly a religious ceremony. Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Literally everybody is going to die. If your family wants to have a lavish funeral they can pay for it themselves. In my opinion, they're a complete waste of money. Not one cent of tax dollars should go towards reimbursing them. As for student debt, if they wanted to defer payments for a year I would be fine with it. Canceling debt is a bailout for those who didn't take their job prospects post-education seriously when they majored in art history. What about everybody who went to school, got a good job, and paid their bills?
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I see a whole lot of assumptions and bias and no details in your statements
 
Here4money said:
I see a whole lot of assumptions and bias and no details in your statements
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I'm not making any assumptions. Funerals are mostly religious. If people aren't aware of their job prospects they shouldn't be spending tens of thousands of dollars at a school. It's called personal responsibility. Something I don't think is too much to ask for from kids who are legally able to vote. I know people who worked throughout college, paid their own way, and came out with zero student debt at good state schools. The problem with people like AOC was she was using her BU (a good, but unnecessarily expensive private school) degree to bartend.
 
kmgilroy89 said:
I'm not making any assumptions. Funerals are mostly religious. If people aren't aware of their job prospects they shouldn't be spending tens of thousands of dollars at a school. It's called personal responsibility. Something I don't think is too much to ask for from kids who are legally able to vote. I know people who worked throughout college, paid their own way, and came out with zero student debt at good state schools.
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Sure you are. You are assuming funeral aid isn't capped above some percentage of a national average burial or cremation cost. You are assuming job market prospects never change due to circumstances (like a pandemic) and asking people abandon careers midway because of it. You're assuming students were able to work through a pandemic that shut down the economy
 
Here4money said:
Sure you are. You are assuming funeral aid isn't capped above some percentage of a national average burial or cremation cost. You are assuming job market prospects never change due to circumstances (like a pandemic) and asking people abandon careers midway because of it. You're assuming everyone was able to work through a pandemic that shut down the economy
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I'm saying we should let them defer payments. Forgiveness is different. The national average of a burial/cremation is a joke and too expensive, not because it's like healthcare, but because people choose to make it that way. Death could be much cheaper if people simply stopped having funerals.
 
Here4money said:
Why did we give forgiveable business loans in last year's CARES act? That's where you outrage should be.
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My outrage comes from this has little to do with COVID relief and is more of a bailout for poor choices. Relieving everybody's student debt makes no sense. Paying for a funeral makes even less sense. These situations are completely different from bailing out the airline industry when 95% of flights are halted. Medical expenses? Okay. Vaccinations? Definitely fund that. Funerals? Hell no. Student debt? No way. Those were expenses that were going to occur regardless of a pandemic and funeral expenses are completely unnecessary to begin with in my opinion.
 
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