We can't feed all these people...that would only create dependency...

Quote from jem:

That Isaiah quote is perfect... and explains why we all need forgiveness.

Asimov was a bit small minded on this one. He should have used his imagination a bit more. He forgot one little tidbit. The Creator may choose to bestow his grace (forgiveness) on all of some of us or none of us.

Asimov and Hawking....small minded. Do you see the disconnect ?

Regarding his imagination, did you know that Asimov is one the most prolific sci-writers in history?
 
Quote from jem:

That Isaiah quote is perfect... and explains why we all need forgiveness.

Asimov was a bit small minded on this one. He should have used his imagination a bit more. He forgot one little tidbit. The Creator may choose to bestow his grace (forgiveness) on all of some of us or none of us.

Forgiven for what? Being what God made me to be? There are no rewards or punishments brother Jem, other than in the here and now. There is only passing through from one place to the other. It's a big universe and we have much to travel.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy".
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

Asimov and Hawking....small minded. Do you see the disconnect ?

Regarding his imagination, did you know that Asimov is one the most prolific sci-writers in history?


have you heard of the idea of juxtaposition and use of words for effect.

note.. in case you think I am joking about know who asimov is... Free thinker uses this passage once a quarter and I have told him the past I love sci fi.
 
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Forgiven for what? Being what God made me to be? There are no rewards or punishments brother Jem, other than in the here and now. There is only passing through from one place to the other. It's a big universe and we have much to travel.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy".
amen.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

its just that on every subject you seem to quickly jump to the angry religious white guy defense. just wondering why?

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." -Sir Winston Churchill

Religous white guys deserve to be heard, as do you. Just not every god damn day.:D
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

Religous white guys deserve to be heard, as do you. Just not every god damn day.:D

they can be heard in their churches. but if they come out to a public forum they will be challenged.


Matthew 6:6

King James Version (KJV)


6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

yes. forgiveness for your self loathing. just as i said. religion instills guilt in the mind of the believer.

self loathing is probably what happens when you do not seek forgiveness or when you seek it but do not truly repent.

If you truly repent you are unlikely to be self loathing. You will know peace.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

they can be heard in their churches. but if they come out to a public forum they will be challenged.


Matthew 6:6

King James Version (KJV)


6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

It's you that starts these threads every single day. Why the obsession? Everyone know's your position. What's to gain by hammering at it day and night? I haven't seen anyone trying to convert you, and I doubt you're converting anyone yourself, so what's the point of all this back and forth?
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

Forgiven for what? Being what God made me to be? There are no rewards or punishments brother Jem, other than in the here and now. There is only passing through from one place to the other. It's a big universe and we have much to travel.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy".

how do you know?
science is starting to see there is a strong chance we have a Creator.
at some point if the Creator is a cool being... would he just snuff us all out?

Would you do that to your pet if you had a choice?
 
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