Unrigging Our Elections

If you watched the 2000 Mules movie, that is not how it was done. It was ballot harvesting on a grand scale, we are talking hundreds and thousands of ballots. They had mules dropping off ballots in multiple locations and caught on security cameras. There is also, an undercover hidden camera on the perpetrators paying the mules. They were talking freely as they did not know the person they were talking to had hidden cameras. You have ballots of dead people, people who have moved, people in nursing homes with dementia, etc. all requesting ballots and casting their votes. You do not need to be a genius that this is massive election fraud where even the signatures are not even checked and verified anymore in a lot of locations. Yeah, we cannot check those signatures because the signatures won't match what is on record.

I'm going with the most benign form of ballot harvesting, and something I've personally witnessed. You're not going to get folks on the left to comment on stuff like you just mentioned. Hell, they don't even like mentioning the two words together in the first place.
 
I did say that.

However, you're making the assumption that people who are voting absentee are the vast preponderance of those ballot harvesters turning in ballots. I don't actually have a problem with that, if it were the case.

No, I'm talking about the guy who shows up at an apartment building (I've personally witnessed this before) and says "hey! are you voting in the next election?" And gets a "not interested" answer. But then says "ya know, I have a ballot right here, its convenient. If you fill it out, you get a $15 Papa Johns pizza free coupon!" As the person agrees and starts filling it out, the harvester "advises" some good choices when the disinterested party goes "I don't really follow this stuff or care about these people".

Do this enough times in enough apartment buildings and the like and viola.

You’re telling me you witnessed someone give another person a $15 papa John’s card in exchange for filling out a ballot. I just want to be clear in what you’re saying here.
 
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Ballot harvesting should not be tolerated in any way, shape or form. The opportunities for fraud is unlimited. It is used to harvest votes of dead people, people who have moved to another state, people in nursing homes with dementia are requesting ballots and mailing it in, students voting other student votes (those who have transferred to other states and schools), etc. On top of it, there is no signature matching or verification anymore. That is why the last midterm elections, despite, all the predictions of a red wave, it did not happen. Just as large numbers of blacks and hispanics voted for Republicans even if they were Democrat. The November 8, 2020 was very dirty, ridden with enormous fraud, aided and abetted by the no good RINOs in Arizona and Georgia. All of it to deny President Donald Trump the US Presidency. The extreme left, Democrats and RINOs cannot beat President Donald Trump in honest and fair elections. Even they know that! It is a disgrace that this travesty was allowed to happen in the United States. And now normalized in each election cycle. Democrats will have a hard time losing seats. Republicans need to clean out their acts but, the RINOs in Arizona and Georgia will never allow it.
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Good points, by implication dont elect RINOs:D:D
I dont even believe all i read in IBD[Investors Business Daily] + even believe even less in talking snake media like NPR:caution::caution:
Judicial Watch has had some good lawsuits wins against dirty voter rolls.
I like that Mr Morgan named that red cover book /not red wave rules\ but Red Sea Rules.
He dedicated Red Sea Rules book , to his wife named Katrina:caution::caution:
I just thought of the IBD front page picture of RINO Romney saying [predicting LOL]Trump would wreck the economy.:D:D
 
What's tougher is engaging a discussion with someone with opposing views rather than just snarky anecdotes and one liners. Or a meme. God forbid people might disagree.
Occam's Razor would suggest it's just GOP ideas are unpopular.
 
You’re telling me you witnessed someone give another person a $15 papa John’s card in exchange for filling out a ballot. I just want to be clear in what you’re saying here.

That is exactly what I witnessed. He received a pizza coupon to fill out the ballot. The person who handed him the coupon was clear he was giving the coupon to encourage the "Get Out And Vote" initiative. He was not being paid to vote a particular way.
 
That is exactly what I witnessed. He received a pizza coupon to fill out the ballot. The person who handed him the coupon was clear he was giving the coupon to encourage the "Get Out And Vote" initiative. He was not being paid to vote a particular way.

So that would be flat out illegal and goes way beyond what you call harvesting. For the record I don’t disagree that paying people to vote is egregious but it is already illegal.
 
So that would be flat out illegal and goes way beyond what you call harvesting. For the record I don’t disagree that paying people to vote is egregious but it is already illegal.

Take the Pizza coupon out of the equation. You agree with going door to door to get people who don't want to vote to fill out a ballot?
 
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