Under pressure from the white house, Mccabe fired hours from retirement.

[TreeFrogTrader]

Andrew McCabe is a federal employee. He is also an FBI agent which is a specialized category of Federal employee. As a non-appointed job-protected FBI agent and a federal employee there are an entire set of written documentation that must be provided when an employee is terminated with cause at the time of the announcement or before. Even though the FBI is one of the few branches of federal government where the employees are not unionized there are still a huge number of requirements for paperwork and tracking when an FBI employee is terminated with cause which must be followed. I expect the process was followed in this case but the documentation supporting the termination is either missing or weak IMO.

There are also limits on what anyone in the executive branch can further state about the terminated employee beyond what is directly found in the required termination documents (which for the media are public records with certain personal information redacted to align with personal privacy laws and record keeping requirements). The tweets from Donald Trump regarding McCabe are actionable from a unjust employment termination perspective.

Here is a law blog that digs into detail regarding the firing process for Andrew McCabe... as outlined in the lengthy article we should withhold judgement. Note the Justice watchdog report on Clinton email and Comey issues expected in spring -- so we will find out some more details pertinent to this matter at that time.

What We Know, and Don’t Know, About the Firing of Andrew McCabe
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-we-know-and-dont-know-about-firing-andrew-mccabe

"We will refrain from speculating on the reason for the rush to fire McCabe before his retirement. But it is peculiar. Why, one wonders, could the Justice Department not have handled his misconduct—if there was misconduct—the way it usually does: by detailing it in the inspector general’s report and noting that the subject, who has since retired, would otherwise be subject to disciplinary action?"

Alright well, again, we come back to the issue that you believe that your not receiving copies of the documents or seeing them made public establishes that he and his attorney did not receive them. Too much speculation on your part.

I will also state for about the fourth time that his case was reviewed, processed, and approved by the departments internal personnel committee that has no purpose other than to make sure that proper procedure if followed. So, if Sessions fucked up or the processing officials fucked up they did not get there easily. Having said that, we know that if you throw a few hundred thousand dollars at attorneys in DC you can make an argument for anything. McCabe should do whatever he has the money and will to do. He has been thoroughly disgraced and thrown out and that is all that matters to me. He can play with the compensation and victim stuff as long as he wants. If he can manage that and fend off criminal charges too, then that's fine. He will need to.

 

[Poindexter]

It's not a swamp, it's a sewer, and anyone who thought the sewer rats would go quietly is naive.

 

[gwb-trading]

Alright well, again, we come back to the issue that you believe that your not receiving copies of the documents or seeing them made public establishes that he and his attorney did not receive them. Too much speculation on your part.

I will also state for about the fourth time that his case was reviewed, processed, and approved by the departments internal personnel committee that has no purpose other than to make sure that proper procedure if followed. So, if Sessions fucked up or the processing officials fucked up they did not get there easily. Having said that, we know that if you throw a few hundred thousand dollars at attorneys in DC you can make an argument for anything. McCabe should do whatever he has the money and will to do. He has been thoroughly disgraced and thrown out and that is all that matters to me. He can play with the compensation and victim stuff as long as he wants. If he can manage that and fend off criminal charges too, then that's fine. He will need to.

In all the previous firings of FBI agents over the past two decades the press conference and announcement was scheduled in advance by at least 24 hours for normal 8-5 hours on a workday (as per government rules) and full documentation of the OPC / IG reports (or the criminal indictments) was provided to the press to support the firing.

It is bizarre (as noted by lawyers & judges) that this proper process was not followed in the firing of McCabe. Something is clearly out of alignment.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

In all the previous firings of FBI agents over the past two decades the press conference and announcement was scheduled in advance by at least 24 hours for normal 8-5 hours on a workday (as per government rules) and full documentation of the OPC / IG reports (or the criminal indictments) was provided to the press to support the firing.

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Well, let us agree, that ALL FOR TWO DECADES is a bit of a sweeping statement but I will review your source so go ahead and post it. Hopefully, it is not a blog where Joe Blow's uncle was an FBI agent and told him so.

The second point is SO WHAT? That might be a reason why the press is pissed off but does not go to the material issue of his firing. Approval and review by the press is not an essential element of due process for McCabe. There is no rule prohibiting the firing of someone outside the 8-5 weekday schedule. If the press feels the government could have handled notification to them better then they may have a legitimate complaint to the Department- but it does not reverse or cancel any decision they reached. One of the reasons why they went right up to the end was because they did work to meet due process requirements that are essential.

McCabe needs to get his lawyers and do the best he can for himself. He has responsibiiliteis to himself and his family and that is just the way it works and so he just needs to get going. Mortgage the house and hire some lawyers. Probably he will get some portion of his pension back or not. I doubt that he will get the accelerated full benefit at 50 package. He will go through a period where he will have to sweat out possible perjury or obstruction charges and I don't know where those will go, but he will be taken to the point of having to sweat it out.

He will go through a period of some hope on the pension, and it might be right while he is having to worry about criminal charges. He needs to sort all that out as he goes along.

No doubt that when Strzok and Page are fired it will be less expedited and more orderly and they will not need to go into overtime because the department has more time. They don't want to move strok and page out just yet though because the IG has jurisdiction over them as long as they are department employees, but unlike a special investigator he cant put the squeeze on them if they leave.

 

[piezoe]

We should remember that Trump got rid of other upper level officials under Comey after he fired Comey. Technically I don't believe he fired them. I think they resigned after Comey was fired.

McCabe had announced his retirement in Jan 2018, I believe. He will be 50 on this Sunday and would have been eligible for retirement as of Sunday I believe. The IG would have investigated and prepared a report, and I suppose could have been asked for a recommendation. I suppose we will know specifics when McCabe gets his copy of the report if he decides to release it to the press.

The IG for a Federal agency is essentially the auditor for that agency. He wouldn't be the one deciding what action should be taken. Personnel matters are generally not part of the Public's business, the exception being, of course, criminal cases where there is an indictment involved.. However McCabe will get a copy of the IG's report and if he chooses to make it public he could elect to do so with respect to those parts pertaining to himself. McCabe announced his retirement in January 2018 I believe.

from the web:
Andrew McCabe
Former Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
Andrew George McCabe is an American attorney who served as the Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation from February 2016 to January 2018.Wikipedia
Political party: Republican Party
Born: May 5, 1968 (age 49), Hartford, CT
Spouse: Jill McCabe
Previous office: Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (2016–2018)
Succeeded by: Christopher A. Wray
Education: Washington University in St. Louis (1993), Duke University (1990), Bolles School

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

McCabe had announced his retirement in Jan 2018, I believe. He will be 50 on this Sunday and would have been eligible for retirement as of Sunday I believe.

McCabe may have been eligible for retirement but the timing of his actual retirement followed events rather than a pre-plan.

In January he faced a full day of hearings with the Intel Committee that went very badly. The next day he announced that we was leaving at the end of March. Coincidence? Let the viewers decide.

Then, later when the Dems committee/Nunes memo was scheduled to be released it was reviewed in advance by Christopher Wray. As part of that review, the IG gave Wray access to parts of his report which is still in process and also gave him a preview of what would be said about McCabe in that report. That was on a Sunday and McCabe also met with Wray on that Sunday. The next day- on Monday morning- McCabe announced that he was leaving immediately rather than at the end of the month deciding to use his accrued vacation days to get him to magic date. Leaving the day after Wray is briefed by the IG about McCabe? Coincidence? Let the viewers decide.

So, it is both. He was trying to stay one step ahead of what was coming, but he was also working with whatever cards he was holding, such as turning fifty. With Comey and Loretta and Hillary gone he was vulnerable. Whether he was vulnerable because he was open to political attacks or whether he was vulnerable because he had no political hacks to cover for his past actions is debatable. Personally I think he would not have had any problems if he had stayed out of the political stuff and just done his job instead of trying to be Clinton fixer.

 

[elderado]

You people are looking at all this the wrong way. Andrew McCabe wasn't "fired" as he fired his damn self. Just took a couple of months to get all the ducks in a row and make what is likely an airtight case.

In light of all this, it is very interesting to see who is balls out and flaming.

Samantha Power? Really? Tell us, baby, why we should be afraid of John Brennan. I would really like to know.

https://twitter.com/x/status/975016643670757376

 

[RRY16]

We should remember that Trump got rid of other upper level officials under Comey after he fired Comey. Technically I don't believe he fired them. I think they resigned after Comey was fired.

McCabe had announced his retirement in Jan 2018, I believe. He will be 50 on this Sunday and would have been eligible for retirement as of Sunday I believe. The IG would have investigated and prepared a report, and I suppose could have been asked for a recommendation. I suppose we will know specifics when McCabe gets his copy of the report if he decides to release it to the press.

The IG for a Federal agency is essentially the auditor for that agency. He wouldn't be the one deciding what action should be taken. Personnel matters are generally not part of the Public's business, the exception being, of course, criminal cases where there is an indictment involved.. However McCabe will get a copy of the IG's report and if he chooses to make it public he could elect to do so with respect to those parts pertaining to himself. McCabe announced his retirement in January 2018 I believe.

from the web:
Andrew McCabe
Former Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
Andrew George McCabe is an American attorney who served as the Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation from February 2016 to January 2018.Wikipedia
Political party: Republican Party
Born: May 5, 1968 (age 49), Hartford, CT
Spouse: Jill McCabe
Previous office: Deputy Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (2016–2018)
Succeeded by: Christopher A. Wray
Education: Washington University in St. Louis (1993), Duke University (1990), Bolles School

Don’t feed the bots.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

You people are looking at all this the wrong way. Andrew McCabe wasn't "fired" as he fired his damn self. Just took a couple of months to get all the ducks in a row and make what is likely an airtight case.

In light of all this, it is very interesting to see who is balls out and flaming.

Samantha Power? Really? Tell us, baby, why we should be afraid of John Brennan. I would really like to know.

https://twitter.com/x/status/975016643670757376

I would not want to be either Susan Rice or Samantha Power is they charge McCabe with any crime and he decides to go full savage and take everyone else down with him in order to be able to spend some time with his family- I mean the one at home- not at prison. He got stuff on them and Brennan and Clapper BIGLY. So she needs to shut her little lefty piehole.

 

[gwb-trading]

Mueller's team interviewed McCabe, asked about Comey's firing
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/17/politics/mccabe-memos-trump/index.html

Special counsel Robert Mueller's team interviewed former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and asked about the firing of FBI Director James Comey, a source briefed on the matter confirmed to CNN.

The source would not say when the interview, first reported by Axios, occurred.

Mueller also has memos written by McCabe documenting his conversations with President Donald Trump, a person familiar with the matter told CNN.

The memos also detail what Comey told McCabe about his own interactions with Trump while he was FBI director, the source said, and are seen as a way to corroborate Comey's account in Mueller's probe on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The Associated Press first reported on the existence of the memos and that the special counsel's office has them.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired McCabe on Friday night, just over 24 hours before his 50th birthday and the date he was set to retire and begin receiving his anticipated pension, over accusations that McCabe directed FBI officials to speak to the media about an investigation tied to the Clinton Foundation and misled investigators about his actions.

Following his firing Friday, McCabe told CNN in an interview that he had four interactions with the President last May, while he was acting FBI director.

McCabe revealed that he had three in-person interactions and one phone call with Trump, in which the President berated him each time about his wife's failed Virginia Senate campaign.

It is unclear exactly what is in McCabe's memos and if he memorialized every interaction he had with the President. McCabe did not keep a copy of his memos after turning them over to Mueller, the source confirmed. A spokesman for the special counsel's office declined comment.

"In May, when Director Comey was fired and I had my own interactions with the President, he brought up my wife every time I ever spoke to him," McCabe told CNN. "Of course, I disagreed with him."

McCabe also confirmed that the President asked him who he voted for in the 2016 election, which was reported back in January and which Trump denied.

The former No. 2 official at the FBI told CNN that Trump did not bring up the agency's investigation into Russia meddling in the 2016 election.

Comey's memos

Comey revealed last year that he had kept memos while he was still FBI director about meetings and conversations he had with the President. Comey said his memos detailed conversations in which Trump asked Comey to pledge loyalty to him, state publicly that the FBI was not investigating Trump himself, and urged Comey to "let this go," referring to the then-investigation involving Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Trump has denied several of Comey's claims.

During his testimony on Capitol Hill last June, Comey acknowledged orchestrating the leak of his memos to the media a few days after he was fired in hopes that the Justice Department would appoint a special counsel.

The former FBI director's memos have also been handed over to the special counsel.