Trump Privately Rationalized KKK After Charlottesville

vanzandt said:
You just don't understand Trump. You're only parroting what the media has sensationalized. Have you ever met someone from Brooklyn, Queens, or the Bronx? They talk. They like to talk. And they talk with this air of confident arrogance. Anything someone says can be spun a half dozen different ways. Thats what they did with Charlottesville. I understood what he was trying to say when he said "there were decent people on both sides". He was just "talking". He meant nothing by it. He also condemned the idiots there.

And I never understood why the birther thing is considered "racist". Can you explain that to me? Seriously. Cause I never understood why that would be considered racist. It was about not being born in this country. What the hell does that have to do with being black? What if Obama were white? Trump still would have pushed that theory. He's a freakin' big mouth. He loves the limelight. He likes drama.

If you want to say anything negative... Trump is an "opportunist". If there's a buck in it for him he's all over it. He doesn't care what color a person's skin is, he's all about his money. He's a street smart NYC hustler. Call him greedy, call him a one way, you can even call him a womanizer... but don't call him a racist. He's not.
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You really think trump would have pushed birtherism if obama was white? Did he question anyone else's birthright?
 
what the heck is wrong with having difficulty understanding why someone would be in the KKK.

I wonder similar things. Why be a hate group?
For instance why would a non minority join the democrat hate group party?

I can't believe a non minority would be a democrat unless they were a crony hell bent on stripping our rights and freedoms away so they can earn higher profits.
(I am not saying most republicans are any different so don't give that that whatabout Republicans crap.)


exGOPer said:
“As [Trump] got back on Marine One to head to Andrews Air Force Base and on to JFK and then into Manhattan and Trump Tower, [after addressing the Charlottesville murder,] his mood was dark and I-told-you-so. Privately, he kept trying to rationalize why someone would be a member of the KKK—that is, they might not actually believe what the KKK believed, and the KKK probably does not believe what it used to believe, and, anyway, who really knows what the KKK believes now?”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/wolff-book-trump-privately-rationalized-kkk-after-charlottesville

The orange didn't fall far from the tree, his father had connections to the KKK.

No wonder all the Nazis love this guy.
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vanzandt said:
I do. I don't think its an apples to apples comparison. I'm not a psychiatrist, but its different. There's a huge physiological factor at play with substances.

A puppy can be trained to do a certain task early in its life that it will retain forever... but if it breaks its leg when its five years old it can no longer do that task until its leg heals. In this analogy, serious drug addictions are like "breaking a leg". It can be healed. But racism to the extent of being a Grand Dragon is an ingrained condition that can't be unlearned, just like a dog can't unlearn that which it was trained to do at a young age.
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We've come to an impasse then.
 
vanzandt said:
You just don't understand Trump. You're only parroting what the media has sensationalized. Have you ever met someone from Brooklyn, Queens, or the Bronx? They talk. They like to talk. And they talk with this air of confident arrogance. Anything someone says can be spun a half dozen different ways. Thats what they did with Charlottesville. I understood what he was trying to say when he said "there were decent people on both sides". He was just "talking". He meant nothing by it. He also condemned the idiots there.

And I never understood why the birther thing is considered "racist". Can you explain that to me? Seriously. Cause I never understood why that would be considered racist. It was about not being born in this country. What the hell does that have to do with being black? What if Obama were white? Trump still would have pushed that theory. He's a freakin' big mouth. He loves the limelight. He likes drama.

If you want to say anything negative... Trump is an "opportunist". If there's a buck in it for him he's all over it. He doesn't care what color a person's skin is, he's all about his money. He's a street smart NYC hustler. Call him greedy, call him a one way, you can even call him a womanizer... but don't call him a racist. He's not.
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Taking out ads advocating death sentence for black teenagers when they were not guilty is NOT talking

Hiring PIs to uncover the 'real' birth certificate is NOT talking

Discriminating in business against blacks is NOT just talking

You are ignoring all his ACTIONS to suggest that it was all just talking.
 
jem said:
what the heck is wrong with having difficulty understanding why someone would be in the KKK.

I wonder similar things. Why be a hate group?
For instance why would a non minority join the democrat hate group party?

I can't believe a non minority would be a democrat unless they were a crony hell bent on stripping our rights and freedoms away so they can earn higher profits.
(I am not saying most republicans are any different so don't give that that whatabout Republicans crap.)
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I have never seen you express such sentiment for Antifa or MediaMatters.
 
exGOPer said:
Taking out ads advocating death sentence for black teenagers when they were not guilty is NOT talking

Hiring PIs to uncover the 'real' birth certificate is NOT talking

Discriminating in business against blacks is NOT just talking

You are ignoring all his ACTIONS to suggest that it was all just talking.
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Taking out ads.... give me a link on that one. I'm sure it exists, I just want to read it.

Hiring PI's.... once again, I'll ask, and I'm being polite... why is it "racist" to question the birthplace of somebody? He did it to Cruz.
 
exGOPer said:
O’Donnell quoted Trump saying,“ Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history
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Hmph.... well, if thats accurate... its pretty shitty.
I can honestly say... I don't know what to believe anymore.
There's so much stuff out there. But if he did in fact say that.... I gotta say, I agree with ya.
But people lie. So who knows.
 
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