Treyvon Martin issue is starting to irritate the hell out of me

Quote from gwb-trading:

So you have NO citation that there is an eyewitness who told the police that Martin attacked Zimmerman who was walking towards his truck?

Yes, I have read the links and this is NEVER stated by any eyewitness.
So you didn't look at the link I just posted above where the story of the interview of the witness is headlined: "Wintness: Martin Attacked Zimmerman"?
 
Quote from achilles28:

Seems like a dumb move to keep the star witness hidden? All the unknowns surrounding the case gave the race-pimps enough leeway to whip the black community into a frenzy. Had the witness actually come out and said, ya, treyvon attacked him first, game over. Case closed. The deafening roar would be toned down to a whimper.

I read today on Drudge that the Black Panthers offered a bounty for the "capture" of Zimmerman. I don't know if that is just incitement or if they mean to harm him but it sort of justifies the police keeping his/her ID secret.

The Sanford PD hasn't done things to cover their own asses. It seems to me that they've behaved "by the book".

I also read that the DOJ might bring charges and is doing their own investigation.
 
Quote from pspr:

So you didn't look at the link I just posted above where the story of the interview of the witness is headlined: "Wintness: Martin Attacked Zimmerman"?

Pspr this gwb guy may be normally rational but here in this thread he thinks he has put his reputation on the line and is too invested to be impartial or rational. Like I said, I like him but he is being a bit of an ass in this thread. We all do it sometimes I guess.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

The Sanford police say there was an eyewitness who gave a statement at the scene that matched what Zimmerman told them. They aren't releasing the identity of the eyewitness and are claiming that the eyewitness would be in danger if they released his/her name.

There is a link near the front of this thread where they talk about the "secret witness" and there was a discussion about what that persons statement said today on KNX radio in Los Angeles. They said that the eyewitness statement is the main reason Zimmerman was released and given his weapon back. Zimmerman is still permitted to carry that weapon.

Its probable that persons identity will have to come out if there is a grand-jury investigation and a DOJ investigation because Obama needs to divide the country further to enhance his reelection chances.

This 'secret eyewitness' is 911 caller #4 out of 8. Nowhere does this eywitness state that Zimmerman was walking back to his truck and Martin attacked him.

This witness states that he saw Martin on top of Zimmerman hitting him and Zimmerman was screaming for help. This witness did not see the start of the fight and only went to look because he heard Zimmerman screaming from the ground.

Yes, this witness's statement did agree with the explanation that Zimmerman was on the ground being punched. This also aligned with Zimmerman's injuries. The now discredited Sandord police did state that this witness was part of the reason Zimmerman was released and given his weapon back. This action with the weapon by police demonstrated how inept the Sandford police department was, and violated state requirements that guns used in shooting deaths must be retained and tested.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:


I also read that the DOJ might bring charges and is doing their own investigation.

And some of the idiots on this forum want states rights. Yep, fuck that, all day.
 
Quote from pspr:

So you didn't look at the link I just posted above where the story of the interview of the witness is headlined: "Wintness: Martin Attacked Zimmerman"?
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Hmm? Look from YOUR link.

"Zimmerman called 911 and told dispatchers he was following a teen. The dispatcher told Zimmerman not to.
And from that moment to the shooting, details are few."



So your link NEVER say Zimmerman keep following that boy when they tell him no. But your link say, "And from that moment to the shooting, details are few."

So why does your link say details are few? Why they forget the "detail" Zimmerman follow that boy when the 911 tell him NO?
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

I read today on Drudge that the Black Panthers offered a bounty for the "capture" of Zimmerman. I don't know if that is just incitement or if they mean to harm him but it sort of justifies the police keeping his/her ID secret.

The Sanford PD hasn't done things to cover their own asses. It seems to me that they've behaved "by the book".

I also read that the DOJ might bring charges and is doing their own investigation.

I agree with you that the Black Panthers offering a bounty to arrest Zimmerman is absurd.

The Sanford police department admitted that they failed to properly handle this case to the town council. This why the police chief has been removed from office after a 'no confidence' vote from the council.

I think that the DOJ will have a very difficult task making a bias case out of this - as admitted by Martin's attorney.
 
Quote from trendlover:

That is why everyone is so mad because no one look for more facts.
There are probably only a few people who saw this in a residential neighborhood. Maybe there are no more facts or witnesses to be found.

The police listen to Zimmerman tell them what happened.
Shouldn't they question the living party to the event to hear his side of what happened? They have the 911 tape to compare his statments to.

They listen to the other person say Zimmerman on top of Trayvonn. Then they stop.
I think you have that backwards. Marting was on top of Zimmerman pounding him. Who says they stopped there?

Why they did not look more for facts?
They interviewed witnesses, etc. What other facts are there? Maybe they should have been more thorough but they were probably content that they had the facts correctly after interviewing several partial witnesses.

Why no one hear that fact the girl on the cell phone with Trayvon say he telling her he is followed?
We know he was followed. No one disputes that.

Why no one hear the 911 calls one month ago?
Nobody requested a copy maybe?

Why is the boy dead for 3 days and his mother and father can not find him?
I don't know why the missing person report was not linked to the dead Martin kid. That is shameful but has no bearing on the guilt or innocence of Zimmerman.
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

And some of the idiots on this forum want states rights. Yep, fuck that, all day.

I don't understand your meaning.

I read that the DOJ thinks they need to look at what happened and is doing that right now. They might bring federal charges if they find something actionable.

Is there something wrong with my statement?
 
Quote from pspr:

So you didn't look at the link I just posted above where the story of the interview of the witness is headlined: "Wintness: Martin Attacked Zimmerman"?

A fancyful headline - but the explanation in the articles only state that the witness saw Martin on top of Zimmerman on the ground. The witness never states that he saw the start of the confrontation or that Zimmerman was walking back to his truck when attacked.
 
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