Treyvon Martin issue is starting to irritate the hell out of me

[gwb-trading]

Quote from pspr:

There are probably only a few people who saw this in a residential neighborhood. Maybe there are no more facts or witnesses to be found.


Shouldn't they question the living party to the event to hear his side of what happened? They have the 911 tape to compare his statments to.


I think you have that backwards. Marting was on top of Zimmerman pounding him. Who says they stopped there?


They interviewed witnesses, etc. What other facts are there? Maybe they should have been more thorough but they were probably content that they had the facts correctly after interviewing several partial witnesses.


We know he was followed. No one disputes that.


Nobody requested a copy maybe?


I don't know why the missing person report was not linked to the dead Martin kid. That is shameful but has no bearing on the guilt or innocence of Zimmerman.

The police never went back to the neighborhood after the day of the shooting to seek other witnesses or gather additional facts. As stated to the town council the Sanford police spent zero minutes on the case after the day of the shooting except for the media press releases.

It is absurd that the parents called the Sanford police every day for three days asking about a missing 17 year old black male, and the police department was so incompetent to even link that to "hey we have a black teen gunshot victim over in the morgue". It is also absurd that the police never used the teen's cell phone to contact the family. The ICE contact was available and the phone was not locked. What if there was some evidence on the phone like Martin recording the confrontation?

 

[pspr]

Quote from gwb-trading:

A fancyful headline - but the explanation in the articles only state that the witness saw Martin on top of Zimmerman on the ground. The witness never states that he saw the start of the confrontation or that Zimmerman was walking back to his truck when attacked.

There are only two sentences in the article quoting the witness. I'm sure they asked him more questions than that. Since the headline says Marting attacked Zimmerman they probably have more they didn't put in the artcle.

I don't see a reporters email address or name so it's not possible to contact him or her to get an answer.

 

[gwb-trading]

Google Maps: The Shooting of Trayvon Martin

 

[achilles28]

Quote from 377OHMS:

I read today on Drudge that the Black Panthers offered a bounty for the "capture" of Zimmerman. I don't know if that is just incitement or if they mean to harm him but it sort of justifies the police keeping his/her ID secret.

The Sanford PD hasn't done things to cover their own asses. It seems to me that they've behaved "by the book".

I also read that the DOJ might bring charges and is doing their own investigation.

Yes and no. Since when is it legal to incite violence or the commission of a felony (kidnapping, murder, assault) with reward? That the Black Panthers offered a bounty on Zimmerman is illegal, and the FBI/DOJ should arrest the parties responsible tomorrow. The FBI won't do squat, and that exposes just another angle to the story and an existing racial undercurrent to Obama's Presidency (shielding black panthers from prosecution for voter intimidation in 08). Maybe the SPD played it right. Maybe not. This media circus and pimpage is doing a lot of harm to the country. I know you're not prone to conspiracies, but look at how the left-wing media jumped all over this story and immediately cast it as a white-on-black "hate crime", where there's at least 10 instances of fact, to the contrary. They're executing a deliberate agenda to foment racial division, in spite of facts to the contrary. Now, what other stories are they doing it for? They did it to Ron Paul. That's for sure. They did it during the lead-up to Iraq. They act like the NDAA, Enemy Expatriation, Presidential Assassination don't even exist. They barely talk about it. What we're watching half the time isn't news. It's propaganda

 

[trendlover]

Quote from pspr:

There are probably only a few people who saw this in a residential neighborhood. Maybe there are no more facts or witnesses to be found.
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No one know if more facts to be found if they do not look for more facts.

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Shouldn't they question the living party to the event to hear his side of what happened? They have the 911 tape to compare his statments to.
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Yes, they have to question him. And the police have to think he killed that boy, so they need to have more questions to more people.

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I think you have that backwards. Marting was on top of Zimmerman pounding him. Who says they stopped there?
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Yes, is backwards. Martin is on top of Zimmerman. I make that mistake when I write. Why no hear from the girlfriend on the cell phone?

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They interviewed witnesses, etc. What other facts are there? Maybe they should have been more thorough but they were probably content that they had the facts correctly after interviewing several partial witnesses.
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Why are they content?

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We know he was followed. No one disputes that.
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Why no one question why he follow that boy when he never see that boy do crime?

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Nobody requested a copy maybe?
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Why Trayvon mother and father not request a copy? Maybe because they do not know their rights? Now they know their rights.

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I don't know why the missing person report was not linked to the dead Martin kid. That is shameful but has no bearing on the guilt or innocence of Zimmerman.

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You can tell me that Trayvon's mother and father call the police the same day their son is missing, the same day thier son is killed, but no police can remember the black boy is killed that day?

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from 377OHMS:

The eyewitness and Zimmerman both told police that Martin attacked Zimmerman who was walking towards his truck which is why he was released.

Can you post a link to where an eyewitness said Martin attacked Zimmerman while he was walking towards his truck

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from pspr:

In the article below the main witness (who police won't release the name) was apparently located by a Fox TV station crew from Orlando. In their story of what they asked the witness the headline reads, "Witness: Martin Attacked Zimmerman".

However, there are very few direct comments from the witness in the story and the part saying he saw Martin attack Zimmerman is not included. Whether that is because of space limitations or that isn't exactly how the witness worded it is not known.

So, unless there is further information about this witness's statements released, he may have said that or he may have said something slightly different.

I don't think they would use that headline, though, unless they were reasonably sure that's what he said or meant.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

Nowhere in that story does it say the witness said he saw Martin attack Zimmerman when he was walking back to his truck

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from pspr:

There are only two sentences in the article quoting the witness. I'm sure they asked him more questions than that. Since the headline says Marting attacked Zimmerman they probably have more they didn't put in the artcle.

Or Maybe they didn't put it in there because the witness never said he saw Martin attack Zimmerman while he was walking back to his truck

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

I suggest you read up on it if you think you cant defend yourself after someone aggressively pursues you by car and foot

You have to be threatened.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from gwb-trading:

The same can be said for you. I expect that Martin has the right to defend himself against Zimmerman who pursued him aggressively and then attacked him. It does not give Zimmerman the right to shoot Martin after the teen gained the upper hand in the struggle.

And you have evidence Martin was pursued "aggressively"?