traders who are deeply religious

[trader28]

And of course there are these uncomfortable facts for the christian

The Talmud writers mentioned Jesus' name twenty times and quite specifically documented that he was born an illegitimate son of a Roman soldier called Panthera, nicknamed the "Panther". Panthera's existence was confirmed by the discovery of a mysterious tombstone at Bingerbrück in Germany. The engraving etched in the headstone read:

Tiberius Julius Abdes Panthera, an archer, native of Sidon, Phoenicia, who in 9AD was transferred to service in Rhineland (Germany).

Mary was turned out by her husband, a carpenter by profession, after she had been convicted of unfaithfulness. Cut off by her spouse, she gave birth to Jesus, a bastard; that Jesus, on account of his poverty was hired out to go to Egypt; that while there he acquired certain (magical) powers which Egyptians pride themselves on possessing.

Later, in passage 1:32, Origen supported the Jewish records and confirmed that the paramour of the mother of Jesus was a Roman soldier called Panthera, a name he repeated in verse 1:69. Sometime during the 17th Century, those sentences were erased from the oldest Vatican manuscripts and other codices under church control.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from trainr:

Please show how these quotes were taken out of context.

If you cannot, then I think your own credibility, or what little remained, will evaporate completely.

Those who are interested need merely read my posts in that thread preceding your post that quoted them, and then compare them with your "interpretation." If that is insufficient for them, then I imagine that Larry has a bridge for sale with their name on it, and it is only a matter of time.

 

[nononsense]

Quote from nononsense:

Now that you bring this up, show us that you're really smart.
(1) Who were the parents of that "brother"?
(2) How do you know that?

Quote from trader28:

That is a tough one but I'll have a crack at it... for the father I am going to go with Joseph of Arimathea, he claimed the body as is a fathers right... and for mother I will stick with Mary but with one proviso, she was obviously a priestess

trader28,

You disappoint me. You are obviouly only "wise"-cracking.

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from trainr:

NOTE2: It doesn't really work, because if you disagree with the bible but use it's precepts, you appear to be more of a hypocrite than the person you criticize.

Quote from trainr:

See NOTE2 in previous post.

I merely observed how someone who characterized himself as a "religious christian" readily referred to those who did not agree with his religious views as "pigs" and "dogs." That is the summit of hypocrisy in view of the standards christians are supposed to live by (humility, tolerance, respect, etc.). I am observing HIS religion and HIS conduct, and the apparent...conflict. Observing this hypocrisy in action does not make me a hypocrite. It merely makes me an observer of hypocrisy. You may wish to read that last part again.

And now, trainr (may I call you Larry?), I think you should lie down and rest your head awhile.

 

[Anti-Madder]

Quote from trainr
Could you give me a quick Yes or No on the following, just to see what you understand:
1. Is the rate of time’s passage fixed?
2. If not, do conditions affect it?
3. Would the rate of time’s passage be the same for an observer present at the beginning of the universe as it would be for us on a current-earth frame of reference?
4. Is the speed of light variable or constant?

I am not taking the bait! No!

I just can't help it.

Ok, even though, these questions look like a passage written by Lewis Carroll, I just can't stop.

In the context of relativity Time is not a, "thing" that has properties. All matter expresses energy ultimately through it's encounters with photons (quantum units of light). Light travels at a constant speed (I won't cover the exceptions) so the faster matter is moving through the universe, the slower it's processes (aging, for instance) relative to slower moving matter because the speed entire body of matter is subtracted from the speed of the processes taking place within the matter. Moving at the speed of light means you would be frozen, "in time." That doesn't mean that------------------

Wait...

I know where this will lead.

Here. Take your pride back. You win. The world is 6000 years old if you stand at the center of creation and judge time by the point in time where that would be true if you pretend it makes sense and click your ruby slippers.

I was just trying to impress people. I never thought I would be asked to write a physics book. I have to pretend I'm busy before my wife gets home.

You got me this time, trainr, but I got your little doggie.

Or goat.

Today I grew. I learned:

If someone laughs at your uninformed statements. Ask them bigger uninformed questions.

Anti-calmer

 

[trader28]

Quote from nononsense:

trader28,

You disappoint me. You are obviouly only "wise"-cracking.

Everyones a critic

 

[trainr]

Quote from Thunderdog:

Those who are interested need merely read my posts in that thread preceding your post that quoted them, and then compare them with your "interpretation." If that is insufficient for them, then I imagine that Larry has a bridge for sale with their name on it, and it is only a matter of time.

Another cave-in.

 

[trader28]

Quote from trainr:

Another cave-in.

Seriously... you could stand trial for murdering the truth

In fact god saw what you wrote and decided to convert to judaism... like his son

 

[trainr]

Quote from Thunderdog:

I merely observed how someone who characterized himself as a "religious christian" readily referred to those who did not agree with his religious views as "pigs" and "dogs."

Actually, he was quoting Jesus about people who were so dominated by their “god of this world” that they would react to hearing the word of God in exactly the manner in which you have reacted.

So, if the shoe fits. I don’t think correctly identifying both the motivation and action of someone constitutes hypocrisy. If so, could you explain?

I think you’re confusing tolerance with stupidity.

That is the summit of hypocrisy in view of the standards christians are supposed to live by (humility, tolerance, respect, etc.).

See NOTE2 in previous post. You can’t possibly know what christians are supposed to do; you don’t have the handshake and decoder ring.

I am observing HIS religion and HIS conduct, and the apparent...conflict. Observing this hypocrisy in action does not make me a hypocrite.

I disagree. I think you can analyze hypocrisy without quoting a document you purportedly don’t accept, unless you accept it. You can’t have it both ways.

It merely makes me an observer of hypocrisy.

... who himself is obviously displaying hypocrisy. [/quote][/b]

 

[Thunderdog]

Quote from trainr:

...I think you can analyze hypocrisy without quoting a document you purportedly don’t accept, unless you accept it. You can’t have it both ways.

Whatever you do, don't ever lose that sense of humor. And now, I must be on my way. No more soup for you.