traders who are deeply religious

Quote from Thunderdog:

Whatever you do, don't ever lose that sense of humor. And now, I must be on my way. No more soup for you.
Speaking of the soupnazi... how many nazi's did the church help to escape after the war?... Jesus would be proud
 
Quote from Anti-Madder:

In the context of relativity Time is not a, "thing" that has properties. All matter expresses energy ultimately through it's encounters with photons (quantum units of light). Light travels at a constant speed (I won't cover the exceptions) so the faster matter is moving through the universe, the slower it's processes (aging, for instance) relative to slower moving matter because the speed entire body of matter is subtracted from the speed of the processes taking place within the matter. Moving at the speed of light means you would be frozen, "in time." That doesn't mean that------------------
Yup, it does.

The rest of your post prompted my wife to ask me what I was laughing about.

You’re a good writer; you have talent.

I didn’t really want to get into another discussion on physics, anyway.

Much, anyway. Teensy bit left, though. Here comes.

Tensor equations aren’t necessary for this to work. All one needs must do is recognize the truthfulness of those questions’ obvious answers that I asked earlier. Then, remove the spatial coordinates idea because it’s not a discussion of locations but of periods of time. There is a frame of reference that refers to the period of the Big Bang, best analyzed as a time rather than place. I debated this with another PhD elsewhere, and he wanted me to produce the math for spatial coordinates, but I think he eventually agreed that wasn’t necessary if one recognized the significance of comparing the rate of time’s passage relative to quark decoupling and the current CBR temperatures.

Which is to restate my earlier point: ~ 6 days equals ~ 14 billion years, depending on your frame of reference between 2 frames; the first is the time of the Big Bang, the second is earth-current time. While it may be a coincidence, it agrees with the Genesis time periods completely, including the “days” of creation, wherein various things appear on earth. The reverse-time rule seems to line up with what modern science declares as the time for each of these appearances.

And, I was referring to relative in the complete sense of the word, although Einstein expressed it initially in its most simple form, “relative to a frame of reference.” You can extend that thought fairly easily because the relativity of a frame of reference is based on the absolute speed of light and the relative rate of time’s passage, which is where I came in.

I don’t know if this short note makes sense in light of the complexity underlying it, but all I have time for today.

I really enjoyed your response.

Good job.
 
Quote from trainr:

So, I didn’t do the math?

And, No, you did not. You did no such thing.

You did not do the math required to calculate this. To achieve the result you claim to have attained requires a knowledge of physics as well as the mathematical skill to "legally" perform a large array of biased tweaks within the equations. The whole exercise, if done without a preconceived conclusion would be pointless because the variables are so numerous that any result would have no value. Mankind does not know enough about the universe to construct a good enough equation to be worth computing. So to do it with a pre-conceived conclusion is the only reason to undertake it.

I'm not sensing that you're the guy who constructed such an equation. You don't even know it's a parlor trick. How could you have devised it. You're the sucker, not the slick magician.

attempting anti-engagement
 
Well I hate to break it to all of you but time is an illusion... and if there indeed be a god he is outside of time/illusion... and it is preposterous to think it took an infinitely powerful being six days to do anything.... no matter what your frame of time reference be
 
Quote from trader28:

Speaking of the soupnazi... how many nazi's did the church help to escape after the war?... Jesus would be proud
Tell it to Thunderdog. He says we're supposed to be tolerant.
 
Quote from Anti-Madder:

And, No, you did not. You did no such thing.
Read my last post.

You made a number of assumptions that turned out to be wrong. And then demolished your straw-men.
 
Quote from trainr:

Which is to restate my earlier point: ~ 6 days equals ~ 14 billion years, depending on your frame of reference between 2 frames; the first is the time of the Big Bang, the second is earth-current time. While it may be a coincidence, it agrees with the Genesis time periods completely, including the “days” of creation, wherein various things appear on earth. The reverse-time rule seems to line up with what modern science declares as the time for each of these appearances.


And a few years ago the estimate of the age of the universe was 18-20 billion years... and in a few years it will be something else.... and no doubt you'll refudge the math then too
 
Quote from trainr:

Tell it to Thunderdog. He says we're supposed to be tolerant.
Talk about being context deficient! I refer to tolerance of differing views (see my post), and trainr reads into it a tolerance of genocide. I think that trainr views the winner of this debate as the last man posting. If so, let's declare him the winner. Please let him have the last post so that we can put this thread out of its misery. Go for it, trainr.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

Talk about being context deficient! I refer to tolerance of differing views (see my post), and trainr reads into it a tolerance of genocide.
Isn't genocide a view that you should tolerate? Where exactly do you draw the tolerance line? I'm confused.
 
it is amazing and amusing to watch the mental contortions believers will go through to make the story fit the book.


Quote from trainr:

Yup, it does.

The rest of your post prompted my wife to ask me what I was laughing about.

You’re a good writer; you have talent.

I didn’t really want to get into another discussion on physics, anyway.

Much, anyway. Teensy bit left, though. Here comes.

Tensor equations aren’t necessary for this to work. All one needs must do is recognize the truthfulness of those questions’ obvious answers that I asked earlier. Then, remove the spatial coordinates idea because it’s not a discussion of locations but of periods of time. There is a frame of reference that refers to the period of the Big Bang, best analyzed as a time rather than place. I debated this with another PhD elsewhere, and he wanted me to produce the math for spatial coordinates, but I think he eventually agreed that wasn’t necessary if one recognized the significance of comparing the rate of time’s passage relative to quark decoupling and the current CBR temperatures.

Which is to restate my earlier point: ~ 6 days equals ~ 14 billion years, depending on your frame of reference between 2 frames; the first is the time of the Big Bang, the second is earth-current time. While it may be a coincidence, it agrees with the Genesis time periods completely, including the “days” of creation, wherein various things appear on earth. The reverse-time rule seems to line up with what modern science declares as the time for each of these appearances.

And, I was referring to relative in the complete sense of the word, although Einstein expressed it initially in its most simple form, “relative to a frame of reference.” You can extend that thought fairly easily because the relativity of a frame of reference is based on the absolute speed of light and the relative rate of time’s passage, which is where I came in.

I don’t know if this short note makes sense in light of the complexity underlying it, but all I have time for today.

I really enjoyed your response.

Good job. [/B]
 
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