traders who are deeply religious

[trader28]

Quote from trainr:

Agreed: your arguments don't work.

I dont have to disprove the divinity of Jesus... it is a given we are all human... if you want to make an outrageous claim that one of us was god incarnate then you better be able to back it up with evidence... the burden is not on me because I already have 7 billion examples of humans who are not god grow up kids

 

[trainr]

Quote from trader28:

I dont have to disprove the divinity of Jesus... it is a given we are all human... if you want to make an outrageous claim that one of us was god incarnate then you better be able to back it up with evidence... the burden is not on me because I already have 7 billion examples of humans who are not god grow up kids

Already given.

It is remaining up to you to refute what has been offered. At this point the burden IS on you.

You have failed, both in fact, and by your own admission.

 

[trader28]

Did you know hundreds of years before Jesus pagans worshipped their god by drinking wine and eating bread... they believed they were eating the transmuted blood and flesh of their saviour... who by the way was born of a virgin on December 25th and after dying was resurrected 3 days later around easter... gee where have I heard that one?

 

[trainr]

Quote from trader28:

Did you know hundreds of years before Jesus pagans worshipped their god by drinking wine and eating bread... they believed they were eating the transmuted blood and flesh of their saviour... who by the way was born of a virgin on December 25th and after dying was resurrected 3 days later around easter... gee where have I heard that one?

See NOTE in previous post.

 

[trader28]

Quote from trainr:

See NOTE in previous post.

Theres your proof... Christianity is just a sad rip off of a pagan myth that Paul decided to graft onto the "man" Jesus to make the religion more palatable to roman culture... the story is not unique to jesus and even worse he was not the first to have that myth woven around him... game over

 

[trader28]

Anyway this is pointless, you cant prove it and one day you will grow up and stop trying

 

[trader28]

You know I've actually heard christian fundamentalists claim that the pagans had a premonition of Jesus and thats why their myths came before him and are virtually identical... thats the mentality any reasonable person is up against... its the same fanaticism we critisize the muslims for... when really any form of fundamentalist religion is moronic and dangerous in the extreme

 

[trainr]

Quote from trader28:

Theres your proof... Christianity is just a sad rip off of a pagan myth that Paul decided to graft onto the "man" Jesus to make the religion more palatable to roman culture... the story is not unique to jesus and even worse he was not the first to have that myth woven around him... game over

See NOTE in previous post.

You can't offer speculations as proof of anything. So, in a sense, the game is over.

I won't respond to your posts in future unless you offer some real evidence of your arguments.

 

[trader28]

Quote from trainr:

See NOTE in previous post.

You can't offer speculations as proof of anything. So, in a sense, the game is over.

I won't respond to your posts in future unless you offer some real evidence of your arguments.

Blah blah... just another contrived fundy response

 

[hcour]

Quote from trainr:

You missed it entirely. While my analytical skills may need to be revisited on some things, you've continued to miss the point. I concede it is somewhat complex, but you claim to be up to the challenge.

No, you're the one missing the point. They weren't "knowers", they believed they were "knowers".

Disciples of Jesus and Buddha and Mohammed and Charlie Manson "witnessed" miracles. The Catholic church is ready to make John Paul II a saint because it has "witnesses" to miracles he performed.

We are rarely eye-witness to the things that mould our beliefs. I've never been to Galapagos, but I believe what Darwin says he saw there. Ultimately, we decide who (and what sources of information) we will believe and who we won't believe.

Our choices of who to believe are biased -- We tend to believe those who already believe as we do. Their arguments always make more sense. It's what makes the search for truth so slippery.

H