traders who are deeply religious

[trainr]

Quote from trader28:

Why do terrorists fly planes into buildings thinking they will end up in paradise with a 1000 virgins?

Because the are deluded too

NOTE: Mere speculation.

Please prove the contemporaneous martyrs were deluded.

If you can't do it, my original statement stands. And I will no longer debate your speculations, you'll have to start thinking for yourself.

That library idea is a good one -- check it out (no pun intended).

 

[TylerSJI]

Incase you misread, it was directed to 'Trader' not 'trainr'. Not being rude, just not sure.

I was citing writings to substanciate the notion that Jesus was regarded as God in nature previous to Constantinople.

 

[trader28]

Quote from trainr:

NOTE: Mere speculation.

Please prove the contemporaneous martyrs were deluded.

Prove to me that the brother of Jesus was wrong when he told Paul to stop spreading lies about Jesus ie: stop telling everyone he is divine

 

[trader28]

You were duped, the church has a long history of murder, torture, power mongering and suppressing knowledge... men in power pushed a myth because it kept the coffers full... its time to grow up kiddies

 

[trainr]

Quote from TylerSJI:

Incase you misread, it was directed to 'Trader' not 'trainr'. Not being rude, just not sure.

I was citing writtings to substanciate the notion that Jesus was regarded as God in nature previous to Constantinople.

You're right, I missed it.

Sorry.

Also, if there's any doubt as to the intent of Jesus, the Jews come to our aid. In the gospels they tried to stone him for claiming he was God.

 

[trader28]

You poor poor lads.. you've been fed lies all your life and now you spend all your time trying to justify them... you played right into their hands... but fear not, with each incarnation comes ever growing self knowledge, none are left behind... good luck

 

[trainr]

Quote from trader28:

Prove to me that the brother of Jesus was wrong when he told Paul to stop spreading lies about Jesus ie: stop telling everyone he is divine

That doesn't work.

You don't prove one thing by asking your opponent to prove the reverse.

Should I assume then you have no proof that contemporaneous martyrs were deluded, based on your lack of evidence?

 

[trader28]

Quote from trainr:

That doesn't work.

You don't prove one thing by asking your opponent to prove the reverse.

Should I assume then you have no proof that contemporaneous martyrs were deluded, based on your lack of evidence?

Of course it doesn't work, you have no evidence at all, you can cite whatever you like but its right up there with the UFO phenomenon unless you can produce the spaceship or the aliens... they count on your blind faith

 

[trader28]

I dont have to disprove the divinity of Jesus... it is a given we are all human... if you want to make an outrageous claim that one of us was god incarnate then you better be able to back it up with evidence... the burden is not on me because I already have 7 billion examples of humans who are not god

 

[trainr]

Quote from trader28:
quote trainr:That doesn't work. You don't prove one thing by asking your opponent to prove the reverse.


Of course it doesn't work

Agreed: your arguments don't work.