Tim Morge and the well-chosen example

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I realize this thread may be a little stale, but while doing some research on the mentors of marketgeometry.com I came across these records for an Omar Shane Blankenship:

https://www.open-public-records.com/court/nevada-14952360.htm

It looks like Shane may have blown up more than his trading account.

You are absolutely right. I have fully confirmed that the Shane Blankenship that you mention, and is partners with Timothy Morge in Market Geometry, did indeed declare bankruptcy, due to his wife’s medical bills. This obviously raises questions about Tim Morge as a teacher. Shane teaches the Market Maps class ($180 a month), and has been Morge’s protege since the 90s.
 
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" The problem is all inside your head, he said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle to be profitable
There must be fifty ways to lose your money

She said it's really not my habit to intrude
For the more I hope my meaning won't be lost or misconstrued
So I repeat myself, at the risk of being cruel
There must be fifty ways to lose your money, fifty ways to lose your money

Just slip out the back, Jack, make a new plan, Stan
Don't need to be coy, Roy, just listen to me
Hop on the bus, Gus, don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee, and get yourself free"

 

His videos appear to always showcase a well-chosen example...

Discuss.

Dear Maverick,

I was a member of Market Geometry, but came to your same conclusion, AND found evidence that contradicts what Mr. Morge has said publicly (routinely carrying 30+ Billion dollar positions). I will start a separate thread to address those findings.

Timothy Morge (Market Geometry) is not who he claims to be, so please be careful. I also viewed the IB Webinars, where he claims to be among the 10 largest FX traders in the world, and to have three PHDs (Math, Physics, Economics). Through the Wayback Machine, I found he only has a Masters, NO PHDs, and Blackthorne Capital, his sovereign wealth fund which supposedly manages more than 100 Billion, had only less than 4 Million in AUM.

You can view the real Timothy Morge here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050211033314/http://blackthornecapital.com:80/btnewindex.html

I contacted Cynthia Tomain at Interactive Brokers, and Tim will never be allowed to speak there again.
 

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Yes, he is registered. But from what I can see he has no fund or pool money being managed. His response will be that he manages sovereign wealth fund money and is exempt from reporting requirements.
Ask him for specifics---doubt you will get anything concrete. As for Shane---I doubt he has a funded trading account in his name. I am not bashing Mr. Morge---but just do some simple math. Subscription revenue with high price tutoring equals a good living. You cannot knock
a person for making a good whack. It is a lot easier to sell information on how to trade than to take risk in the markets. Great gig.
Bottom line, Mr Morge runs an educational site for profit. He is a educational vendor with the usual disclaimers by law. Examples will always be after the fact. Just know what you are
getting. If that is what you are looking for, you can do much worse than Mr Morge's services.
Overall, he is probably a really good guy. Which is a complement in an industry filled with garbage. PS, just because you are registered does not make you much of anything, besides registered. Happy Holidays to all.

Dead carguy0001,

You are right, Mr. Morge runs it for profit, but many of his claims are entirely false.
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/tim-morge-and-the-well-chosen-example.305061/page-3
 
I realize this thread may be a little stale, but while doing some research on the mentors of marketgeometry.com I came across these records for an Omar Shane Blankenship:

https://www.open-public-records.com/court/nevada-14952360.htm

It looks like Shane may have blown up more than his trading account.

Dear Fibronacci1618,

I can’t thank you enough for posting Shane Blankenship’s bankruptcy. It led me dig further into Tim Morge (Timothy Morge), and Market Geometry. And find a lot of lies. Tim Morge claims: (1) to manage Queen Elizabeth’s wealth since 1991, (2) to manage Steve Jobs private offshore foundation, and to have been good friends with him, (3) to have been part of the comittee that created the EURO, (4) to manage Michael Dell’s fortune, (5) to have been an apprentice to Amos Hostetter at Commodities Corporation, while a teenager in high school, (6) being one of the 10 largest traders in the world, and at any time being among the 3 largest FX traders in the world, with positions as large as 100 Billion dollars.
He also stated that he teaches graduate level students at MIT. I contacted MIT’s registrar, and attach their response (they have NO idea who he is). He also claims to have declined to be interviewed by Jack Schwager for the Market Wizards, and that he knew Schwager from Commodities Corporation. I attach Peter Brandt’s response. Jack Schwager has NO idea who Tim Morge/Timothy Morge is! Surreal...

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There is about 9 minutes of my life that I wasted. (I say 9 minutes because I watched it at 1.5x speed and it was still ridiculous)

First of all, as you say, well chosen example, and hindsight chart analysis is what it is. But here is the big thing. There is no mention of the limit down. When price approached those lows of 2028, it stopped initially just above the 5% drop for the ES. If this guy is a pro, wouldn't this be important to mention? This is hugely important. (edit... he mentions the limit down later in the video... but he doesn't mention it at all when it hits the first low around 2030, and that is where its most critical because clearly, the buying came in to prevent the halt)

Secondly, he says he wants to see some of the tops taken out to show him that there are buyers, but these tops are at 2056/58, so he wants to see a 30 point rally before he considers a long? Sorry buddy... but once those tops are taken out, that is the worst place to be going long.

So finally he gets around to saying which highs he wants to see taken out, but this really aren't the ones he was referring to initially since he didn't scroll forward far enough. But he mentions an entry, and price comes almost all the way down to there again. Can we really believe that he held through watching it drop so far if he really did enter?

Then he says he made about 100 points on his 10 contracts and says how he left some money on the table?

Jesus... this guy is such a fraud. Anybody who pays him money is dumber than he is.

Dear Gotcha,

You are absolutely right. 9 minutes wasted is a LOT better than 3-5 years, and tens of thousands of dollars!
 
Almost forgot about this thread---hardly ever post on any forums at all.
Good work, you guys figured it out. Will leave you with some really cheap advice that may save some $'s. In no particular order. Beware of the smartest guy in the room syndrome. Beware of the dead guy or reclusive guy trading methods. Beware of the name dropper guy. Beware of the new way to massage price method guy. Well, you get it. Really need to dig and verify before you shell out your $'s. PS. Alan Andrews of lived in a very small house in Florida which was torn down for redevelopment. Survived by teaching a course on median lines. At the time of his death left little or nonexistent estate. Hardly a wealthy market master. BTW---on my way to redeem a beer can, I found another beer can on the ground---100% ROR. If repeatable---ROR is scary good.
 
Almost forgot about this thread---hardly ever post on any forums at all.
Good work, you guys figured it out. Will leave you with some really cheap advice that may save some $'s. In no particular order. Beware of the smartest guy in the room syndrome. Beware of the dead guy or reclusive guy trading methods. Beware of the name dropper guy. Beware of the new way to massage price method guy. Well, you get it. Really need to dig and verify before you shell out your $'s. PS. Alan Andrews of lived in a very small house in Florida which was torn down for redevelopment. Survived by teaching a course on median lines. At the time of his death left little or nonexistent estate. Hardly a wealthy market master. BTW---on my way to redeem a beer can, I found another beer can on the ground---100% ROR. If repeatable---ROR is scary good.

Hi!
It was definitely a team effort (thanks to this forum). I simply pieced all together. A true investigation, and plenty of detective work, to find out who Timothy Morge really is! Did you know that you can claim to have 3 Phds to a crowd of hundreds, and there is NO way they can disprove it. Only the specific person, or an employer with official permission can access those records. Thanks to the Wayback Machine, I found out the truth about this guy. He expected that information to be long gone, and probably had a heart attack when he saw it!
http://web.archive.org/web/20050211033314/http://blackthornecapital.com:80/btnewindex.html
Real traders like Peter Brandt are very skeptical of people like Timothy Morge, and that was the initial red flag. We did it! We uncovered a major con...
 
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