the sooner we get away from BEEF

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If you see in all the links, some people like Tokelau, Inuit, ,Masai, Japan, Greece... all have the high fat with no heart disease.

The Tokelau avg high cholesterol of 245 largely due to all that coconut fat.

The Inuit suffer from strokes and diabetes.

The Masai develop extensive atherosclerosis from their consumption of whole fat milk and meat.
ATHEROSCLEROSIS IN THE MASAI
"The intake of animal fat exceeds that of American men. Measurements of the aorta showed extensive atherosclerosis with lipid infiltration and fibrous changes but very few complicated lesions. The coronary arteries showed intimal thickening by atherosclerosis which equaled that of old U.S. men."

Okinawan's (Japanese) eat largely plant-based, low in fat. Which gives them their exceptional longevity.

Greece? The traditional Mediterranean is low in fat and meat and high in whole vegetables and plants.


You truly are clueless aren't you?
Would you like to try again :D

EAT PLANTS! :D
 
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"The Tokelau avg high cholesterol of 245 largely due to all that coconut fat."
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Among the Tokelauans, whose fat intake was higher than that of the Pukapukans, the blood cholesterol levels were somewhat higher ranging between 208 mg/dl and 216 mg/dl. The prevalence of coronary heart disease among the two populations covered in the study was extremely low and has remained low.
http://www.preventionisbest.com/site/saturatedfat.html
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"The Inuit suffer from strokes and diabetes."
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Additionally, Dr. Dewailly argues that it's the consumption of healthy portions of high-protein, high-fat meat that keeps the hearts of the Inuit people as healthy as a horse. This sorta makes events like the PETA-sponsored Meatout irrelevant, doesn't it? I wonder what the radical vegans think about this, hmmm?
http://livinlavidalocarb.blogspot.com/2007/01/i-knew-it-low-carb-inuit-diet-protects.html
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"The Masai develop extensive atherosclerosis from their consumption of whole fat milk and meat.
ATHEROSCLEROSIS IN THE MASAI"
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Background Several studies have revealed that the Masai, pastoralists in Tanzania, have low rates of coronary heart disease (CHD) despite a diet high in saturated fat. It has also been suggested that they may be genetically protected. Recent studies detailing other potential protective factors, however, are lacking.
http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2008/06/03/bjsm.2007.044966.abstract
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"Okinawan's (Japanese) eat largely plant-based, low in fat. Which gives them their exceptional longevity."
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During the postwar period of improved nutrition the Japanese average height increased three inches and the age-adjusted death rate from all causes declined from 17.6 to 7.4 per 1000 per year. Although the rates of hypertension increased, stroke mortality declined markedly. Deaths from cancer also went down in spite of the increased use of animal foods.

The researchers also noted-and here is the paradox-that the rate of myocardial infarction (heart attack) and sudden death did not change during this period, in spite of the fact that the Japanese weighed more, had higher blood pressure and higher cholesterol, and ate more fat, more beef and more dairy
http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/japan.html
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"Greece? The traditional Mediterranean is low in fat and meat and high in whole vegetables and plants."
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In Europe, the people with the longest life expectancy live in Crete - a small island near Greece. In Crete, they eat much more fat and red meat than the people in the UK do - and they live about seven years longer, on average. Their fat is olive oil based and their red meat is mainly sheep and goat. In the UK people eat a lot of potatoes (fast release carbs) and saturated fats. In the UK people eat loads of junk foods - in Crete they don't. In Crete they eat loads of fruit and vegetables, they eat salads (slow release carbs) at every meal. The people in Crete smoke a lot more than the British do and they live longer. The British have corn flakes for breakfast and the people in Crete have cheese, olive oil and some vegetables. The people in Crete are eating the stuff Atkins tells us to - the people in England aren't.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/8483.php



I made mistake and thought Crete is in Greece. But look at Crete for example.
 
Quote from FortuneTeller:

After reading this last post it is obvious KTS has been owned! :D

Owned that's smthg you should know about you've been there from start of this thread :D

"Owned" i don't think so. His first two links are to "low carb" websites, do you think they might have an agenda? The first actually agrees the islanders high fat diet produces high cholesterol above 200+. Since the Intuit have been eating more beef their health has been plummeting. So much for the second link.

His third links to an opinion from an editor of a magazine. Big whoop there :D MY reference is to an actual STUDY where atherosclerosis was actually observed in Masai at autopsy.

His fourth link, weston price? bwahahahaha :D

He is still clueless.:D
 
LoL, but YOU don't have an agenda right?? Fucking LOL :D :D :p

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"Owned" i don't think so. His first two links are to "low carb" websites, do you think they might have an agenda?
 
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