the sooner we get away from BEEF

Quote from Spydertrader:

You come equipped with incisor teeth. You think those are for eating dandelions? Your body chemistry comes equipped with pepsinogen, and when in the presence of Hydrocloric Acid (HCL), pepsinogen becomes pepsin required for the digestion of protein.



You either have reading comprehension issues, or you've intentionally misunderstood my point. Evolution has provided all humans with the necessary tools required for protein digestion. To suggest otherwise, or better yet, to suggest removing protein from one's diet provides an evolutionary benefit, represents fantasyland logic.


ALL plants contain protein? calorie for calorie spinach contains as much protein or more than an equal serving of beef. .. w/o the heart destroying saturated fat and cholesterol.

When your body needs energy (measured in 'calories'), it does not care whether that unit of energy (calorie) came from alcohol, sugar, crabohydrate, fat or protein. Energy is energy. When you need energy, it is either readily available in the blood (glucose levels) or it has to be obtained from reserves (cholesterol, or adipose tissue [fat cells]).

By mass, a pound of sugar contains more energy (calories) than a pound of fat, and that pound of fat contains more energy (calories) than a pound of protein. Again, any organism requires energy, but that organism doesn't care how it obtains the energy. Energy is energy.

An organism doesn't 'burn' sugar, fat or protein. The organism burns calories.

i doubt you or anyone is getting too few calories ;) besides your point is off-topic

Eat fewer calories per unit time, and the organism weighs less and remains more healthy. The most efficient method for doing so is by eating the same mass of food, but use more of the fewest calorie food products - protein - in that consumed mass.

This concept doesn't require a PhD in Astrophysics to understand. Grade School kids learn this stuff.



Of course not because you are one of those people who already know all there is to learn. Any opinion contrary to your own represents flawed thinking. You know best. Everyone else represents the unwashed or the unenlightened.



Heart Attacks didn't exist in North America until 30 years after the introduction of refined carbohydrates into the American Diet. Over a hundred years ago, people used to eat loads more meat than they do today. Yet, next to no heart attacks. How could this be? Americans started eating more and more refined carbohydrates (Wonder Bread, etc.) and BAM. Corconary Artery disease skyrockets.

As for science, During the Korean War, all returning casualties underwent autopsy for the purposes of improving scientific understanding of human anatomy and physiology. Ninety- Five percent of all those killed in the Korean war showed 50% or greater occlusion of their coronary arteries.

This study took place at a time in this country well before America went 'Super-Sized.' Today, huge numbers of Americans fall into the 'obese' or 'morbidly obese' catagory. You believe all this came from saturated fat??

Use your brain. Evolution did provide you with one.



- Spydertrader


Yes, BEEF (meat) has been the staple of the Western Diet for many decades that includes the years of the "korean War". What do you think clogged all those young arteries that you mention.. carrots? ROFL.

You still have not provided ONE shred of eveidence that saturated fat is beneficial, or even failing that does no harm. :D
 
Quote from ElCubano:

"if eating BCAON is wrong I don't wanna be right".. :D

fine, but you are setting yourself up for a premature death. If bacon or beef is that important to you, have at it. but do so with the knowledge that YOU and you alone are to blame. You know better but you must feed your addiction still. It's all on you.
 
Quote from trendlover:

I want to ask you a question for fun.
You go out with a girl to eat, and you are very, very attracted to her, and she likes you too. Then you order the salad, and she order a hamburger (no cheese :D )
Will you run away? :D

any girl I go out with better eat meat...:D
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

Vegetarianism causes brain damage.




http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/14077

No sex, please, you're a carnivore.

A new phenomenon in New Zealand is taking the idea of you are what you eat to the extreme.

Vegansexuals are people who do not eat any meat or animal products, and who choose not to be sexually intimate with non-vegan partners whose bodies, they say, are made up of dead animals.

The co-director of the New Zealand Centre for Human and Animal Studies at Canterbury University, Annie Potts, said she coined the term after doing research on the lives of "cruelty-free consumers".

Cruelty-Free Consumption in New Zealand: A National Report on the Perspectives and Experiences of Vegetarians and other Ethical Consumers asked 157 people nationwide about everything from battery chickens to sexual preferences.

Many female respondents described being attracted to people who ate meat, but said they did not want to have sex with meat-eaters because their bodies were made up of animal carcasses.

"It's a whole new thing – I have not come across it before," said Potts.

One vegan respondent from Christchurch said: "I believe we are what we consume, so I really struggle with bodily fluids, especially sexually."

Another Christchurch vegan said she found non-vegans attractive, but would not want to be physically close to them.

"I would not want to be intimate with someone whose body is literally made up from the bodies of others who have died for their sustenance," she said.

Christchurch vegan Nichola Kriek has been married to her vegan husband, Hans, for nine years.

She would not describe herself as vegansexual, but said it would definitely be a preference.

She could understand people not wanting to get too close to non-vegan or non-vegetarians.

"When you are vegan or vegetarian, you are very aware that when people eat a meaty diet, they are kind of a graveyard for animals," she said.

My choice not to eat meat is based solely on known physiology. >10 grams of sat fat per day will kill you prematurely. is that hamburger worth a slow suicide? you do the math. but make no mistake, it will kill you, eventually.
 
Quote from trendlover:


I want to ask you a question for fun.
You go out with a girl to eat, and you are very, very attracted to her, and she likes you too. Then you order the salad, and she order a hamburger (no cheese :D )
Will you run away? :D [/B]
there is much truth to the old saying. "if you want to know what your future wife will look like in 30 years look at her mother". if her mother is fat and the daughter packs away the fatty food you better run unless you like fat sloppy women.
 
Quote from killthesunshine:

My choice not to eat meat is based solely on known physiology. >10 grams of sat fat per day will kill you prematurely. is that hamburger worth a slow suicide? you do the math. but make no mistake, it will kill you, eventually.



Killthesunshine, you maybe read a study one time that scientists say is true? Now you can not forget that study. But( new evidence) is found now with science.


Funny ElCubano and Raskolnevky. :D
 
Quote from vhehn:

there is much truth to the old saying. "if you want to know what your future wife will look like in 30 years look at her mother". if her mother is fat and the daughter packs away the fatty food you better run unless you like fat sloppy women.


To eat vegetable and fruit, nuts, whole grain and some meat is healthy. With exercise too.
If someone eat too much meat, or too much food, and have no exercise, they will be fat.
 
Quote from trendlover:

Killthesunshine, you maybe read a study one time that scientists say is true? Now you can not forget that study. But( new evidence) is found now with science.


Funny ElCubano and Raskolnevky. :D

I speak of the PREPONDERANCE of studies that prove saturated fat contained in BEEF will KILL you.

Not "a" study, not "one" study, not some obscure study funded by a vegan org but the vast majority of studies.

The saturated fat contained in every gram of every ounce of every pound of beef will KILL YOU eventually. that's a fact!
 
Quote from trendlover:

To eat vegetable and fruit, nuts, whole grain and some meat is healthy. With exercise too.
If someone eat too much meat, or too much food, and have no exercise, they will be fat.

Too many calories will make you fat. Too much beef with NINE CALORIES per gram of FAT (as opposed to 4 calories/gram for plants) will make you fatter AT TWICE THE RATE, AND clog your arteries to boot. . :(
 
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