The Science Is Settled

[stu]

It is also critical to note that the “11th report on carcinogens” classifies formaldehyde as "reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen".

That's pretty much all I need to read. Even if the "settled science" says it's healthy.

Sure that's pretty much all you need to read. Just enough of anything to keep your ridiculous ignorance in tact.

Formaldehyde is produced naturally in the body in far greater amounts than any vaccine introduces.
There is already over 10 times more formaldehyde occurring naturally in a 2month old baby than in any vaccine, combination or single.
The body perfectly naturally and quickly metabolizes away any of the trace amounts of the dilute formaldehyde remaining from the manufacture of some combination vaccines, just as it does from the manufacture of some single shot vaccine.

More important to keep that ego going than educate yourself for the benefit of your own child. You'd better hope for its sake you stay lucky while you keep yourself ignorant of such basic facts.

You keep on with the same exact argument, relying on "settled science". It's not settled just because you like to throw around that phrase all the time.

Don't be such an idiot. You have already relied on settled science to vaccinate.

It's exactly the same settled science for combination vaccine. The only thing that's different between the two is your unscientific, non factual, fuckwitted conspiracy theory.

Please show me where combination vaccines are safer than separate vaccinations.

Obviously that must be meant as rhetorical as you clearly don't want to know about anything that pisses on that sham daddy ego of yours.

It is nevertheless a pathetic request. Safer!? Why safer?

Why not as safe? As safe as single shots As safe as the single shots you've already had done.

Combination vaccine is exactly that. It's the same science that says combination is safe that says single vaccine is safe for fucks sake.
It's only the conspiracy you fell for that says it isn't.

That's what you are basing aspects of your child's safety on. Conspiracy not science, fact or evidence. You are an idiot for doing that.

 

[dbphoenix]

You are an idiot for doing that.

Well, yeah.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Sure that's pretty much all you need to read. Just enough of anything to keep your ridiculous ignorance in tact.

Formaldehyde is produced naturally in the body in far greater amounts than any vaccine introduces.
There is already over 10 times more formaldehyde occurring naturally in a 2month old baby than in any vaccine, combination or single.
The body perfectly naturally and quickly metabolizes away any of the trace amounts of the dilute formaldehyde remaining from the manufacture of some combination vaccines, just as it does from the manufacture of some single shot vaccine.

More important to keep that ego going than educate yourself for the benefit of your own child. You'd better hope for its sake you stay lucky while you keep yourself ignorant of such basic facts.

Source please on the amount the body produces versus the amount in 10 vaccines, or as you said, 100,000 at once.

You'll understand if I don't take your word for it.

Don't be such an idiot. You have already relied on settled science to vaccinate.

It's exactly the same settled science for combination vaccine. The only thing that's different between the two is your unscientific, non factual, fuckwitted conspiracy theory.

In the choice between vaccination and not vaccinating, the vaccination is by far the lesser evil. However, in the choice between vaccinating a 6-12 month old child with all vaccinations at once, or spacing it over a longer period, the longer period is the lesser of the two evils.

Parents have that right to choose. I understand that, as a liberal who wants to rule everyone's life, you abhor that and call it ignorance. I honestly don't care. Froth at the mouth until the cows come home over it, but it's a parent's right. Just don't get the spittle on my jacket, please. I just had it pressed.

Obviously that must be meant as rhetorical as you clearly don't want to know about anything that pisses on that sham daddy ego of yours.

It is nevertheless a pathetic request. Safer!? Why safer?

Why not as safe? As safe as single shots As safe as the single shots you've already had done.

Combination vaccine is exactly that. It's the same science that says combination is safe that says single vaccine is safe for fucks sake.
It's only the conspiracy you fell for that says it isn't.

That's what you are basing aspects of your child's safety on. Conspiracy not science, fact or evidence. You are an idiot for doing that.

So no proof for the statement you made. I kinda figured that.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Well, yeah.

Are you going to attempt to contribute to anything in this conversation, or are you just sitting atop Stu's shoulder, offering much needed moral support?

 

[stu]

Source please on the amount the body produces versus the amount in 10 vaccines, or as you said, 100,000 at once.

You'll understand if I don't take your word for it.

Those facts are facts . They aren't my facts.

There is this thing called the Internet. You can easily corroborate everything I said. You'd think if you were genuinely that interested in the well being of your own child you would have done so.

In the choice between vaccination and not vaccinating, the vaccination is by far the lesser evil. However, in the choice between vaccinating a 6-12 month old child with all vaccinations at once, or spacing it over a longer period, the longer period is the lesser of the two evils.

Scientifically (you know, that thing you are relying on completely when vaccinating your child), the evils are the same. It's only by your obvious determination to remain ignorant about the subject that you think there is a lesser evil.

Parents have that right to choose. I understand that, as a liberal who wants to rule everyone's life, you abhor that and call it ignorance. I honestly don't care. Froth at the mouth until the cows come home over it, but it's a parent's right. Just don't get the spittle on my jacket, please. I just had it pressed.

Lol everything you don't like or understand is liberal

Bullshit you don't care. If you don't care so much stop responding to everything. duuuuh

It's simple. You haven't understood the benefits of combination vaccine because rather than educate yourself properly in the interest of your child, you'd rather scare yourself and then pretend you're better protecting it. That's fine, it's your choice.

And you hadn't also noticed you've been slavering down the front of yourself for a while now so please, don't try and blame it on me.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Those facts are facts . They aren't my facts.

There is this thing called the Internet. You can easily corroborate everything I said. You'd think if you were genuinely that interested in the well being of your own child you would have done so.

Ok, so again, no source. Got it.

Scientifically (you know, that thing you are relying on completely when vaccinating your child), the evils are the same. It's only by your obvious determination to remain ignorant about the subject that you think there is a lesser evil.

You're entitled to your opinion, of course.

Lol everything you don't like or understand is liberal

Bullshit you don't care. If you don't care so much stop responding to everything. duuuuh

I said I don't care if you call it ignorance. If someone like you says it's ignorant, I wear that as a badge of honor.

It's simple. You haven't understood the benefits of combination vaccine because rather than educate yourself properly in the interest of your child, you'd rather scare yourself and then pretend you're better protecting it. That's fine, it's your choice.

And you hadn't also noticed you've been slavering down the front of yourself for a while now so please, don't try and blame it on me.

Slavering?

 

[jem]

My kids are vaccinated. My wife works in a childrens hospital and has a masters in this stuff...

But this get your shots, brain gets cooked scenario is coming from a Kennedy.
And of the few parents of autistic parents I have met... that is the story I heard.

and its not like our govt has a history of impeccable honesty.

Imagine if your brain got toasted after a vaccine cocktail.
Would you be happy if a Stu and his leftist big govt friends said you can't be hurt thats a fact and then calls people names.

Hell, how they hell can you call something you can not rule out... a fact.
At best... you can say the studies have not found a relationship.





http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...aust-california-lawmakers-banning-exemptions/

SACRAMENTO (CBS SF) – As lawmakers at the State Capitol consider a bill that would no longer allow parents to opt out of vaccinating their children over personal beliefs, vaccination critic Robert Kennedy Jr. waded into the debate at a Sacramento appearance.

Kennedy spoke to a crowd Tuesday screening a film that claims a link between autism in children and thimerosal, an ingredient in vaccines, according to the Sacramento Bee.

“They get the shot, that night they have a fever of a hundred and three, they go to sleep, and three months later their brain is gone,” Kennedy reportedly told the crowd. “This is a holocaust, what this is doing to our country.”

Multiple studies have rejected any link between thimerosal and autism. Even without any link discovered, the ingredient has been removed from nearly all childhood vaccines.

 

[futurecurrents]

Can the vaccine manufacturers make a mistake, or certain children have adverse reactions? Yes.

Can we stop vaccinating children? It would at least be socially irresponsible, if not neglectful parenting.

Should our laws (the big bad government for our libertarian/anarchist friends) require social responsibility?

 

[jem]

your predisposition to loving big govt does not make your side automatically the righteous side in this issue.

if the a company developed a vaccine for cancer... but it killed 10 percent of the people who received it --- should the govt call that socially responsible and require it? what if atheist leftists (like you) die at a 35% clip from a vaccine but cool theists (like me) only died at a .00000002% clip from the vaccine? (the worlds greatest vaccine?)

before you can make a conclusion you have to weigh the competing rights and get the facts.
For some vaccines there may be a very clear winning side.
For other vaccines the issue may not be so clear.

Calling one side nuts and saying the govt is all knowing and all good and all powerful is as nuts as someone saying that all vaccines are are too risky.

 

[dbphoenix]

So if Republicans don't want to vaccinate their children, maybe they'll wind up like the Shakers . . .