The Polls - Is Trump Winning even without the Algo

Want to Know How Trump’s
Doing? Just Look at Mexico’s Peso
Bloomberg, by Eric Martin Original Article
Posted By: PageTurner- 9/12/2016 8:47:46 AM Post Reply
Polls? Who needs ’em. If you want to know how Donald Trump is doing, all you need to do is check the Mexican peso. Over the past four months, Mexico’s currency has repeatedly declined when Trump’s election outlook improves and rallied when his odds of winning slump. The peso tumbled to a 2 1/2-month low Monday after his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, canceled a two-day trip to California because she’s suffering from pneumonia.
 
Hillary + 5

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/washington-post-poll-clinton-ahead-by-5-227999

Washington Post poll: Clinton ahead by 5
By POLITICO Staff

09/11/16 07:37 AM EDT


Hillary Clinton is leading Donald Trump nationally by 5 percentage points among likely voters, according to the latest Washington Post/ABC poll.

Clinton leads Trump 46 percent to 41 percent in a four-way race that also includes Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson (9 percent) and Green Party nominee Jill Stein (2 percent). Among registered voters, her lead is slightly greater, 45 percent to Trump’s 35 percent.
 
Trumps outreach to African Americans isn't working so far.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...oters-looks-like-it-went-as-well-as-expected/

Donald Trump’s pitch to nonwhite voters looks like it went as well as expected

From the outset, Donald Trump's ostensible pitch to black voters seemed iffy. He suggested that black Americans mostly (or entirely) lived in poverty in America's inner cities and used a wildly inaccurate unemployment number for younger blacks, looping in kids in high school. At its heart, Trump argued that Democrats hadn't fixed society's endemic problems, so "what do you have to lose" by voting Trump?

The real target of that outreach, it seemed obvious, was the subset of independents and even Republican voters who were wavering on supporting Trump, a hesitation that was clearly linked to Trump's perceived problems with nonwhite voters. Large chunks of his own party viewed him as bigoted or racist -- and those voters were skeptical of his candidacy.

So how'd that outreach to black and Hispanic voters go? The new Washington Post-ABC News poll allows us to see. And it went about as well as expected.

The margin between Trump and Hillary Clinton in polling that included the four major candidates shows that white voters did indeed shift a bit back toward Trump -- but nonwhite voters moved further away.


The change since our August poll among white registered voters was from a 9- to an 11-point advantage for Trump. Among nonwhites? From a 52- to 58-point lead for Clinton.
 
Tony Stark said:
Trumps outreach to African Americans isn't working so far.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...oters-looks-like-it-went-as-well-as-expected/

Donald Trump’s pitch to nonwhite voters looks like it went as well as expected

From the outset, Donald Trump's ostensible pitch to black voters seemed iffy. He suggested that black Americans mostly (or entirely) lived in poverty in America's inner cities and used a wildly inaccurate unemployment number for younger blacks, looping in kids in high school. At its heart, Trump argued that Democrats hadn't fixed society's endemic problems, so "what do you have to lose" by voting Trump?

The real target of that outreach, it seemed obvious, was the subset of independents and even Republican voters who were wavering on supporting Trump, a hesitation that was clearly linked to Trump's perceived problems with nonwhite voters. Large chunks of his own party viewed him as bigoted or racist -- and those voters were skeptical of his candidacy.

So how'd that outreach to black and Hispanic voters go? The new Washington Post-ABC News poll allows us to see. And it went about as well as expected.

The margin between Trump and Hillary Clinton in polling that included the four major candidates shows that white voters did indeed shift a bit back toward Trump -- but nonwhite voters moved further away.


The change since our August poll among white registered voters was from a 9- to an 11-point advantage for Trump. Among nonwhites? From a 52- to 58-point lead for Clinton.
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Let's count the ways these media screwballs you place your hope and faith in adjust their polls to get the desired result.

1. Using registered voters instead of likely voters. Now why would they do that? Don't they have the resources to refine their polls. rofl. Only one reason. Because they have to push Sick Illary.

2. Why aren't they using a four way matchup instead of a two way? Of course because it helps Trump and hurts Illary to have a four way matchup in the polls. Don't these media organizations have the resources to do a realistic four way poll? LOL

It's almost comical the way they skew these polls with all these tricks. And why do you suppose they do it? Because their little internet trolls have nothing else to go on except phony polls, seeing as how their candidate is a sick as hell liar.

Just one more thing.

WHITE PEOPLE PREFER TRUMP
 
fhl said:
Let's count the ways these media screwballs you place your hope and faith in adjust their polls to get the desired result.

1. Using registered voters instead of likely voters. Now why would they do that? Don't they have the resources to refine their polls. rofl. Only one reason. Because they have to push Sick Illary.

2. Why aren't they using a four way matchup instead of a two way? Of course because it helps Trump and hurts Illary to have a four way matchup in the polls. Don't these media organizations have the resources to do a realistic four way poll? LOL

It's almost comical the way they skew these polls with all these tricks. And why do you suppose they do it? Because their little internet trolls have nothing else to go on except phony polls, seeing as how their candidate is a sick as hell liar.

Just one more thing.

WHITE PEOPLE PREFER TRUMP
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Yeah yeah the polls are biased/skewed.I heard it before in 08 and 2012 when Obama was beating McCain and Romney in the polls.



And Hillary is winning 8 out of the last 10 four way polls while Trump is ahead in 1 out of the last 10.

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Tony Stark said:
Yeah yeah the polls are biased/skewed.I heard it before in 08 and 2012 when Obama was beating McCain and Romney in the polls.



And Hillary is winning 8 out of the last 10 four way polls while Trump is ahead in 1 out of the last 10.

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Yeah, yeah, I heard this kind of crap before. Like in the primaries where they always had the odds in favor of Trump losing, right up until the end. Remember those?
Or Brexit, where the preferred result was to remain, and so that's what they showed in the polls. Remember that?

If you think the four way polls are more accurate, then why are you parading around these two way polls of registered voters like they mean something?

The answer is obvious. Because you, Tony Stark, don't really care about the accuracy of the polls. You are only pulling skewed polls out of your ass to convince yourself that the lying bitch will win.
 
fhl said:
Yeah, yeah, I heard this kind of crap before. Like in the primaries where they always had the odds in favor of Trump losing, right up until the end. Remember those?
Or Brexit, where the preferred result was to remain, and so that's what they showed in the polls. Remember that?

If you think the four way polls are more accurate, then why are you parading around these two way polls of registered voters like they mean something?

The answer is obvious. Because you, Tony Stark, don't really care about the accuracy of the polls. You are only pulling skewed polls out of your ass to convince yourself that the lying bitch will win.
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1.Actually the polls had Trump favored to win months before he won.

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2.Not all polls and polling is equal.Brexit did not have the same level and quality of polling as US Presidential election polling.


3.I think 2 way polling is best,it worked great in 08 and 2012.
 
Tony Stark said:
1.Actually the polls had Trump favored to win months before he won.

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2.Not all polls and polling is equal.Brexit did not have the same level and quality of polling as US Presidential election polling.


3.I think 2 way polling is best,it worked great in 08 and 2012.
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1. These polls you have sited ARE when it was over. Leading up, there were unending election odds of Bush, then Rubio being projected as the winner when they actually got their butts kicked.

2&3. You're right about that. All polls aren't equal. And you keep throwing around the ones that are obviously skewed to make the old sick girl look good.

And once again, using polls from the 'end' of previous elections to tout the accuracy of current polls is nothing less than deceitful claptrap. Because you are well aware that they change their polling methods when it comes to the end of the election cycle. Because those are the ones they're going to be judged on. We've been over this before and Nate Silver has proved it for a fact.
 
fhl said:
1. These polls you have sited ARE when it was over. Leading up, there were unending election odds of Bush, then Rubio being projected as the winner when they actually got their butts kicked.
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No,these were polls released months prior to him winning.Look at the dates.

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