The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

[Bugenhagen]

This is fantastic news!!!! Let it spread, spread, spread. We need to get to herd immunity and get this silliness behind us.

So have you got yourself infected already to do your part?

Wait.. Everyone has had the influenza but we don't have herd immunity to the flu...

Nah, go for it B1S2. Send us daily updates when you feel the first symptoms.

@Tony Stark had it so you can show us how a conservative handles it.

 

[Nine_Ender]

So have you got yourself infected already to do your part?

Wait.. Everyone has had the influenza but we don't have herd immunity to the flu...

Nah, go for it B1S2. Send us daily updates when you feel the first symptoms.

@Tony Stark had it so you can show us how a conservative handles it.

He's lost his mind. Still thinks Trump will win in a landslide but claims if he loses it will because of fraudulent voting. No sane person has such ideas.

 

[Cuddles]

He's lost his mind. Still thinks Trump will win in a landslide but claims if he loses it will because of fraudulent voting. No sane person has such ideas.

Plenty of righties are taking that position. The transition of power won't be peaceful.

 

[Bugenhagen]

This isn't supported at all by posting history. In fact, you've altered your opinions since April.

Please not Jem's straw man of the mainstream global plan was forever lockdown when it was always phased opening.

He is fooling nobody that anyone is adopting the Sweden plan he banged on about. They are all on their original plan just Jem was blind it.

Late closing of course for some cost them dear.

 

[Snarkhund]

I see more masks and more awareness of distancing. I'm wearing my mask in the grocery store and though I've eaten in restaurants I wouldn't be surprised if some elements of reopening are delayed. My favorite food is from a mexican truck anyway and they reopened a couple of weeks ago. It strikes me as sensible so I'm compliant.

But if there is any mandate to wear masks I will stop wearing mine. At this point in my life I'm not too keen on being told what to do. Make it mandatory and mine are going in the trash. I can send others to shop if necessary but they will have to deploy mask police first.

Basically whatever Nancy Pelosi demands defines the Nope end of the spectrum for me.

 

[Nine_Ender]

In the last 3 days ( still counting ), more then 1338 Americans died due to the virus. 18 died in Canada. The numbers don't lie.

 

[jem]

As we learn more and read the studies I have been correct even on some of my speculation.
I have said a great many things that have turned out to be correct if you have read the papers coming out recently.

Probably began spreading much earlier.
Many more people infected than saying.
Much lower infection fatality rate




So if you are going claim I have been wrong...
You should probably provide a handful of examples.

Also note... I posted some experts said virus was going to go away... but I also consistently warned Fauci said there could be a second wave....
So either way the shutdown of the low risk group was dumb and destructive after the first few weeks.

To some it looks like my ideas on testing an tracing adjusted but I said that testing and tracing does not work in larger group with a virus that has a high spread rate and many people don't even know they have it.

When I learned that most people spread to 1 or 0 people... I knew testing tracing of clusters was the way to go...I went with the experts who were experts on clusters and superspreaders.

This isn't supported at all by posting history. In fact, you've altered your opinions since April.

 

[Bugenhagen]

I see more masks and more awareness of distancing. I'm wearing my mask in the grocery store and though I've eaten in restaurants I wouldn't be surprised if some elements of reopening are delayed. My favorite food is from a mexican truck anyway and they reopened a couple of weeks ago. It strikes me as sensible so I'm compliant.

But if there is any mandate to wear masks I will stop wearing mine. At this point in my life I'm not too keen on being told what to do. Make it mandatory and mine are going in the trash. I can send others to shop if necessary but they will have to deploy mask police first.

Basically whatever Nancy Pelosi demands defines the Nope end of the spectrum for me.

 

[jem]

absolute complete horeseshit.... I don't claim the global plan was lockdown forever...
I make fun of GWB's position as lockdown forever as he argued for a phased opening but he and the team were moving the goal posts.

2. Multiple articles have said that Sweden's model is where many of the lockdown countries will go as they go into opening phases...

Please not Jem's straw man of the mainstream global plan was forever lockdown when it was always phased opening.

He is fooling nobody that anyone is adopting the Sweden plan he banged on about. They are all on their original plan just Jem was blind it.

Late closing of course for some cost them dear.

 

[Bugenhagen]

absolute complete horeseshit.... I don't claim the global plan was lockdown forever...
I make fun of GWB's position as lockdown forever as he argued for a phased opening but he and the team were moving the goal posts.

2. Multiple articles have said that Sweden's model is where many of the lockdown countries will go as they go into opening phases...

Lockdown forever... good strategy moron.
Continue to destroy lives and futures in a very unscientific manner. Lock down everyone everywhere... so fucking brain dead...

They won't go into Sweden's plan, they already had something similar as their plan. Their plan was secure, appraise/identify, train and equip. Sweden skipped a step and care home workers killed a lot of people.

You have to plan for what the weak team members can do, idiot proof it, not just what you as project architect could do yourself. This is what other countries understood.

Something you learn when you have worked on large projects involving very mixed ability people.