The Fine Tuning of the Universe

O.T. For some reason I can't see loyek590 posts on my computer, but see them when I'm on my phone. Not ignoring you, but something is messed up. Might be the devil.:eek:
 
O.T. For some reason I can't see loyek590 posts on my computer, but see them when I'm on my phone. Not ignoring you, but something is messed up. Might be the devil.:eek:
you've simply progressed to the point where you no longer need my help or posts, don't forget me, and post if you figure out anything new, we are all in this together
 
As a scientist I am troubled at the notion of "fine tuning".

To my thinking and limited human imagination the universe is a condensate of cooling material that coalesced from the quantum miasma present after the big bang. The fact that our mathematics and physics present certain constants that extend for many digits (or infinitely like Pi) isn't something tweaked with foreknowledge before the big bang. I believe that constants are just resultant values in our mathematics that allow us to model many processes. I don't see why people think anything was fine tuned.

I guess that puts me firmly in the "chance" category.

I've worked for years with certain constants in electromagnetics that relate to EM wave propagation. To me they just *are*.
 
to have an honest conversation on this subject with you stu, you need to stop (implicitly or explicitly) asserting science speculation is fact.

To have an honest conversation on this subject with you jem, you need to stop making false accusations all the time.

You also need to stop implicitly or explicitly asserting big c.... Creator as if there has to be one, and stop suggesting math, science and the laws of physics, is speculation on par with an imaginary boogy man.
 
"Never ask God why

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That is a haunting question, unless... we're not separate from the Universe.
Yes, you're on to something I have contemplated myself. Still while we may be part of, are we equal to whatever the prime driver might be? If not, and it's a if for sure, then are we judged? My opinion, I think not, as it really doesn't make sense to judge your creation if it/we doesn't live up to your expectations, and even less sense if it does. But again, this thing is under no obligation to make any sense at all, at least to our primitive minds.
 
which I don't do troll.

I have stated a few hundred times that that leading physicists like Susskind explain the fine tuning could be evidence of a Creator but that he and some others think that it is evidence of a multiverse...

why do you lie all the time? can't you just be content with writing the truth?

besides its not me who says things like this... its some of the brightest minds in the field.





To have an honest conversation on this subject with you jem, you need to stop making false accusations all the time.

You also need to stop implicitly or explicitly asserting big c.... Creator as if there has to be one, and stop suggesting math, science and the laws of physics, is speculation on par with an imaginary boogy man.
 
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