The EV transition is real

[ironchef]

So how do you know these buses are powered by coal!

There is a 60% probability I am right. Gemini again:

Coal is China's largest source of electricity generation, accounting for nearly 61% of the country's electricity in 2022. In 2023, coal continued to account for nearly 60% of China's electricity supply. China's coal power generation reached 5,397.8 terawatt hours in 2022, and the country is responsible for 95% of the world's new coal power construction activity.

Renewable is a good goal for them but the reality may be a little different.

 

[VicBee]

There is a 60% probability I am right. Gemini again:

Coal is China's largest source of electricity generation, accounting for nearly 61% of the country's electricity in 2022. In 2023, coal continued to account for nearly 60% of China's electricity supply. China's coal power generation reached 5,397.8 terawatt hours in 2022, and the country is responsible for 95% of the world's new coal power construction activity.

Renewable is a good goal for them but the reality may be a little different.

The irony is the coal is imported from Australia

 

[ironchef]

There is a 60% probability I am right. Gemini again:

Coal is China's largest source of electricity generation, accounting for nearly 61% of the country's electricity in 2022. In 2023, coal continued to account for nearly 60% of China's electricity supply. China's coal power generation reached 5,397.8 terawatt hours in 2022, and the country is responsible for 95% of the world's new coal power construction activity.

Renewable is a good goal for them but the reality may be a little different.

As a comparison, here is the statistics for the US:

In 2022, coal accounted for about 18–20% of electricity generation in the United States, down from 54.6% in 1990. This decline is due to the retirement of many older plants. Natural gas is the largest source of electricity in the U.S., generating about 40% in 2022, while wind and solar contributed 14% and hydropower 6%.

I am not saying we are a model citizen but we do try, in our own way and not advertise it.

 

[Overnight]

"...Natural gas is the largest source of electricity in the U.S., generating about 40% in 2022, while wind and solar contributed 14% and hydropower 6%...

That's 60%. Where is the rest of the power coming from?

From COAL and nuclear. COAL for the win. Choke your chickens muthafuckas!

 

[ironchef]

"...Natural gas is the largest source of electricity in the U.S., generating about 40% in 2022, while wind and solar contributed 14% and hydropower 6%...

That's 60%. Where is the rest of the power coming from?

From COAL and nuclear. COAL for the win. Choke your chickens muthafuckas!

OK sir, the math is kind of complex, so let me do it for you:

Coal 20%, natural gas 40% renewable 20%, then nuclear must be 20%.

Here is AI's answer:

In 2023, nuclear energy generated 19% of the United States' electricity, or 775 billion kilowatt hours (kWh). This is enough to power more than 72 million homes. The share of electricity generated by nuclear power has remained stable since around 1990

 

[ironchef]

The irony is the coal is imported from Australia

Yes, they would do the world a great favor by not building new coal fired plants and at the same time punishes Australia for siding with the US.

As a reminder, we stopped building new coal fired plants a long time ago and no one gave us any credits.

 

[Overnight]

OK sir, the math is kind of complex, so let me do it for you:

Coal 20%, natural gas 40% renewable 20%, then nuclear must be 20%.

Here is AI's answer:

In 2023, nuclear energy generated 19% of the United States' electricity, or 775 billion kilowatt hours (kWh). This is enough to power more than 72 million homes. The share of electricity generated by nuclear power has remained stable since around 1990

K, let me re-math it at you...

Where does the energy come from, Boris Johnson, which is who you emulate?

 

[SunTrader]

That happened to me as well. I got the refund check for the impact fee. I hope you did too.

Nope. No check, never paid it.

 

[S2007S]

https://electrek.co/2024/04/19/dc-fast-charging-station-for-every-15-gas-stations/

The US now has 1 DC fast charging station for every 15 gas stations
Michelle Lewis
| Apr 19 2024

DC fast charging station installation is gaining momentum in the US – Q1 2024 saw a 7.6% increase to nearly 8,200 total.
More DC fast charging stations are coming online

Bloomberg Green analyzed federal Alternative Fuels Data Center data and found that nearly 600 DC fast charging stations came online in Q1 2024.
That’s one DC fast charging station for every 15 gas stations, and Tesla Superchargers make up more than a quarter of them. Tesla Superchargers qualify for federal National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) funding if they’re CCS compatible, and Tesla is currently the largest recipient of NEVI funding.

Retailers are playing a big part in the DC fast charger rollout; 10 opened at Buc-ee’s, and nine opened at Wawa in Q1 2024. Both NEVI chargers and non-federally funded DC fast charging stations are coming online.
Electrek reported on February 21 that the US Southeast’s first NEVI EV charging station broke ground, in Kentucky.

Bloomberg also points out that it’s not just a bicoastal rollout (and note that the following are all red states):
Indiana, for example, switched on 16 new fast-charging stations between January and April. Missouri and Tennessee each cut the ribbon on 13 new stations, while Alabama got 11 new places to plug in.

Electrek’s Take
This is great news, and I am excited to watch the DC fast chargers multiply rapidly across the US. I charge my EVs at home most of the time, but I still need fast chargers when I go on trips, like everyone else.
This growth will hopefully alleviate the range anxiety that persists among the general public. Charging deserts are quickly being eliminated.
Lately, there’s been a lot of coverage about the sluggishness of the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) EV charger rollout, but Bloomberg Green‘s report shows that it’s well underway.
But that rollout was never going to happen in five minutes – it’s nothing short of a transportation revolution, and everyone started from scratch. There are a lot of moving parts.

After a couple of years and anow being 2024 I finally took some time to research my cities and see where these fast charging stations are and even though the article claims how many fast charging stations there are for every 15 gas stations I will say this is ridiculous....there are more level 2 charging stations than fast charging stations out there, why they implemented more level 2 chargers since building the infrastructure out near me is absolutely mind boggling....level 2 charging in public shouldn't exist. It should be only fast charging...but besides this these ev cars do not even come close to what they claim in mileage on a single charge....after seeing videos online of actual people driving them its not worth buying an ev, yes they are heavily discounted thanks to government tax credits but nearly 100% of the people I have randomly asked if they would buy an EV the answer is absolutely NOT.

 

[S2007S]

I have no interest in an EV.
I know no one personally who owns one.
None of my neighbors have one, 1/2M homes.
None of talk about buying one.
I have three friends that have bought new cars in the past month.
All ICE.

The early adopters have them.
The honeymoon is over.

Only EV fanboys believe the transition is real.

Glorified golf carts.

You're 100% right, everyone I know who has bought a new car the last few years has bought gas, no EV and I still continue to ask people if they would ever buy EV and they say absolutely not. Most who own an EV do have a gas car at home ...tells you how much faith they have in their 177 mile per charge ev they own. ....