There is no hope for the Frog. I gave up a long time ago. He is immune to fact. When you look at the rate of hospitalization for the new strain (omicron is it?) for unvaccinated versus vaccinated the difference is mind blowing. If all those unvaccinated are counting on their T-cells, god help them.
T-Cells . The dirty word/s to the forum's home grown vaccine specialist
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Pleeeezzzeee. Give us a break would you. Stop insisting on acting dumb. Look at the data would you! Hospitalizations for omicron vaccinated versus un-. And we all have T-cells!!! Even those with AIDS (they have too few of course).
Same thing re cases reported by the way. Be smart get your three mRNA vaccinations NOW! mRNA vaccines are one of the most important medical advances in years. Why not take advantage of the fact you're not in Africa. And if your scared to death of technology, then by god why not just get two shots of the old egg, killed virus vaccine, or whatever it is, J&J. It also works.
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Let's start with correcting the first sentence...
"A lymphocyte is a type of white blood cell that is part of the immune system. There are two main types of lymphocytes: B cells and T cells. The B cells produce antibodies that are used to attack invading bacteria, viruses, and toxins. The T cells destroy the body's own cells that have themselves been taken over by viruses or become cancerous."
https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/Lymphocyte
Nope.... T-cells don't produce anti-bodies. Only B-cells.
Cuddles says jem has re-appered as something else, but I figure he might be dead from COVID while he was waiting for his T-cells to kick in. . .
Jem's latest alt disappeared after being found out. His misunderstanding of basic immunology doesn't change some facts however:
I do wonder where the captain is.
Your track record there is not very good.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...they-fight-omicron?srnd=premium&sref=i4qXzk6d
T Cells Come to the Rescue as Studies Show They Buck Omicron
T Cells Come to the Rescue as Studies Show They Buck Omicron
- Unlike antibodies, the cells hold up against variant in tests
- Findings may explain disconnect between case load and severity
The inference was that “T & B” cells don’t (need antibodies as you stated) they are responsible for their production. They are the backbone of our immune system.
The point I was making is that once our immune system has been exposed either by direct exposure or a vaccine mimicking the spike protein in this case. Our bodies should be able to recognize the virus if it comes in contact again, and now has the ability to fight and produce the needed immune response including antibodies.
You just want to keep inoculating the individual over and over and over and over. You’ve got the cart in front of the horse.
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Antibodies initially produced by the body after infection had started to drop during this period. This finding suggests that T cells are needed for long-term protection from the virus.
“Antibodies alone can protect, including at relatively low levels, but T cells are also helpful if antibody levels are insufficient,” Barouch says.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/antibodies-t-cells-protect-against-sars-cov-2
Types of T cells:
There are several types of T cells that are made, which work together with each other and with the B cells to bring about a cellular immune response. There are helper T cells, and cytotoxic T cells. The helper T cells stimulate B cells to release antibodies, and also trigger the activity of macrophages, which literally consume foreign pathogens. The cytotoxic T cells kill pathogens that are marked with particular proteins and are very specific in their action.
http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-t-cells-and-antibodies/
Please learn to read. My argument is made either post recovery or vaccination.
