Surf Report

[volpri]

Some good points here


I have made several bets about trading with formerly esteemed and respected members of this site. I lost 2 of the bets and promptly paid up. I won one of the bets for i think $10,000 and the person i bet refused to pay. Not to mention this person has the capital and wasn't some hermit living in his mothers basement.

He Used every excuse under the sun, my size was too small, i didn't post the proof fast enough and on & on not to pay.

I will never bet real money on here again or post requested "proof". When someone you know doesn't pay and you do pay-- its a waste of time going down that road. Zero upside and only downside because one honors their bets or doesn't make them.

surf

Best to just post and let the tree fall wherever it falls. I hope yours falls south 1000 cliks! It is nigh impossible to prove anything. What can be proven is your call BEFORE the fact. So far it hasn't panned out but gotton close.

Do you eat mullet? I had an uncle who lived in Florida and he used to catch a pile and we would go over to his house and have this big fish fry. He is gone now. Seemed like he had it together but in the end life fell apart for him.

You just never know....enjoy today..we don't know what tomm brings.

 

[NKVI>NH]

Some good points here


I have made several bets about trading with formerly esteemed and respected members of this site. I lost 2 of the bets and promptly paid up. I won one of the bets for i think $10,000 and the person i bet refused to pay. Not to mention this person has the capital and wasn't some hermit living in his mothers basement.

He Used every excuse under the sun, my size was too small, i didn't post the proof fast enough and on & on not to pay.

I will never bet real money on here again or post requested "proof". When someone you know doesn't pay and you do pay-- its a waste of time going down that road. Zero upside and only downside because one honors their bets or doesn't make them.

surf

david,

he was/is a fraud. you have been fooled for years. the fact that he would not pay should have tipped u off to connect the dots. a con man got conned. lol

 

[marketsurfer]

Best to just post and let the tree fall wherever it falls. I hope yours falls south 1000 cliks! It is nigh impossible to prove anything. What can be proven is your call BEFORE the fact. So far it hasn't panned out but gotton close.

Do you eat mullet? I had an uncle who lived in Florida and he used to catch a pile and we would go over to his house and have this big fish fry. He is gone now. Seemed like he had it together but in the end life fell apart for him.

You just never know....enjoy today..we don't know what tomm brings.

My inlaws do-- i don't eat much fish except for flounder and certain trout species.

Yeah, mullet travel in huge schools. 1000's sometimes as big as a football field. When they swim down the coast, its like a national geographic episode as all the game fish go on a feeding frenzy with the mullets freaking out and actually jumping on the beach to escape. Not to mention the mullet can be 2-3 feet long themselves. These are not tiny freshwater shad or other minnows.
surf

 

[MrScalper]

I never dismiss anyone on elite unless their premise is complete nonsense. Im trying to figure out what you were saying/asking previously.

You want access to a million $ account to trade the ES for a month to prove a point? Am i following you? Is your trading automated? Will you take first loss position with $50k or more and accept getting shut off once your deposit is lost? What about size?

surf

No problem, and you are right to ask.

What I am saying, is, that I know how to make money with short term trading.

I can prove this to someone with money, by getting access to a reasonable size account, it does not have to be $1 mil, but has to be more than $150k.

All I need is access to the account.

The account can be with a prop firm with full back office admin, including risk level exceeded lockout, it does not matter to me as I will never risk too much anyway, as I only take low risk trades, which automatically limits my risk on every trade.

Size is determined by current market internals.

No good trading large size if the trade is initiated at wrong time of day, as you might get caught out with the auto range trade programmes.

Risk per trade never exceeds 1% of account value.

Open positions can be added to when and as required.

Profit targets are based on several factors, but namely market internals.

The goal is 1% per day, compound for 1 month, then reset to original capital value.

Profits are withdrawn, and split as per agreement.

As mentioned, the account can have built in risk control, but I can assure you it is not required, as my main focus is always on losses, not on winners!

Sim accounts or back testing results are of no use.

The way I trade is unique to me, and I am not worried about anyone else trying to copy me, as it is not possible. To do so, one would have to get inside my head, and that, believe me, will never happen

Btw, ES, NQ, YM, EUR.USD, AAPL, IBM, SPY, QQQ, DIA, ZS, etc, etc, it really does not matter.

Anything but CL, or any illiquid market with wide spreads.

No options trading.

If need be, a max loss level can be set, but it will not be required unless I get a stroke or heart attack immediately after trade execution

 

[marketsurfer]

No problem, and you are right to ask.

What I am saying, is, that I know how to make money with short term trading.

I can prove this to someone with money, by getting access to a reasonable size account, it does not have to be $1 mil, but has to be more than $150k.

All I need is access to the account.

The account can be with a prop firm with full back office admin, including risk level exceeded lockout, it does not matter to me as I will never risk too much anyway, as I only take low risk trades, which automatically limits my risk on every trade.

Size is determined by current market internals.

No good trading large size if the trade is initiated at wrong time of day, as you might get caught out with the auto range trade programmes.

Risk per trade never exceeds 1% of account value.

Open positions can be added to when and as required.

Profit targets are based on several factors, but namely market internals.

The goal is 1% per day, compound for 1 month, then reset to original capital value.

Profits are withdrawn, and split as per agreement.

As mentioned, the account can have built in risk control, but I can assure you it is not required, as my main focus is always on losses, not on winners!

Sim accounts or back testing results are of no use.

The way I trade is unique to me, and I am not worried about anyone else trying to copy me, as it is not possible. To do so, one would have to get inside my head, and that, believe me, will never happen

Btw, ES, NQ, YM, EUR.USD, AAPL, IBM, SPY, QQQ, DIA, ZS, etc, etc, it really does not matter.

Anything but CL, or any illiquid market with wide spreads.

No options trading.

If need be, a max loss level can be set, but it will not be required unless I get a stroke or heart attack immediately after trade execution

Will you put up 10% first loss capital and is it an automated system? Do u have any type of record-- it can be on sim if in live markets- preferably on collective2 or another tracking svc.

surf

 

[MrScalper]

Will you put up 10% first loss capital and is it an automated system? Do u have any type of record-- it can be on sim if in live markets.

surf

I do not show records, as they can easily be done up in Adobe Photoshop.

In relation to me risking some of my money, that is no problem at all.

$200k account

Max risk cut off point is 5% = $10k

I put up 50% = $5 k

Profits are split 50/50 after 1 month.

Rinse..Repeat

Profits are market dependant, and may be less or greater than 1% per day compounded.

They are whatever they are.

The main focus is always on losses!

Preferred market is ES, but other markets can also be traded if required.

No interference allowed or tolerated.

I work on my own at all times.

When trading, I will not post on any forum, or allow any type of distraction, for obvious reasons!

 

[marketsurfer]

I do not show records, as they can easily be done up in Adobe Photoshop.

In relation to me risking some of my money, that is no problem at all.

$200k account

Max risk cut off point is 5% = $10k

I put up 50% = $5 k

Profits are split 50/50 after 1 month.

Rinse..Repeat

Profits are market dependant, and may be less or greater than 1% per day compounded.

They are whatever they are.

The main focus is always on losses!

Preferred market is ES, but other markets can also be traded if required.

No interference allowed or tolerated.

I work on my own at all times.

When trading, I will not post on any forum, or allow any type of distraction, for obvious reasons!

I don't want 50% of your profits. 20% is our standard performance fee but you neec to put up 100% of first loss capital and need to show something. We are not in the habit of funding anonymous folks on the internet

You can't fake collective 2, and your statements would come directly from your broker if you allow it.

You still have not answered directly if the trading is automated.

surf

 

[justrading]

I don't want 50% of your profits. 20% is our standard performance fee but you neec to put up 100% of first loss capital. You can't fake collective 2, and your statements would come directly from your broker if you allow it.

surf

You said 10% two posts above, which is it?

 

[marketsurfer]

You said 10% two posts above, which is it?

Read more carefully-- 10% first loss deposit.

surf

 

[justrading]

Will you put up 10% first loss capital and is it an automated system? Do u have any type of record-- it can be on sim if in live markets- preferably on collective2 or another tracking svc.

surf

I don't want 50% of your profits. 20% is our standard performance fee but you neec to put up 100% of first loss capital and need to show something. We are not in the habit of funding anonymous folks on the internet

You can't fake collective 2, and your statements would come directly from your broker if you allow it.

You still have not answered directly if the trading is automated.

surf

Read more carefully-- 10% first loss deposit.

surf

Write more carefully, you called it first loss capital twice to boot, not a deposit. Read the bloody posts I've quoted. I know you are fishing because you said so, are you drunk and stupid? I'm half way through a bottle of whisky, but I'm incapable of stupid, unlike you.