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TKOtrader · May 5, 2003

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Does Shaq know that Kobe "personally" disposed of the Wolves?

yes

TM_Direct · May 5, 2003

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

When he plays a full season without Shaq Daddy, we will see how strong his will really is.

I am still of the belief that without Shaq to protect him, like the thugs in hockery protect superstars, that Kobe would get hacked to death driving down the lane, and his body is fragile.

By my reading, Kobe finished a distant third in the minds of the voters....
2002-03 MOST VALUABLE PLAYER AWARD VOTING RESULTS

Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Pts
Tim Duncan, San Antonio 60 38 18 2 0 962
Kevin Garnett, Minnesota 43 49 17 3 4 871
Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers 8 13 41 35 15 496
Tracy McGrady, Orlando 4 12 30 46 15 427
Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers 3 4 3 13 14 126
Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 0 2 3 9 27 83
Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas 0 1 2 2 20 43
Ben Wallace, Detroit 1 0 2 2 7 33
Jason Kidd, New Jersey 0 0 2 3 12 31
Chris Webber, Sacramento 0 0 1 4 2 19
Jamal Mashburn, New Orleans 0 0 0 0 1 1
Steve Nash, Dallas 0 0 0 0 1 1
Paul Pierce, Boston 0 0 0 0 1 1

Along with his two MVP Awards, Duncan has also collected the 1997-98 Rookie of the Year, the 1999 NBA Finals Most Valuable Player, the co-MVP of the 2000 NBA All-Star Game and the 2001-02 NBA IBM Award during his six-year pro career.

How many years has Kobe been in the league now?

Just curious...how many NCAA titles did Duncan win durring his 4 years in school?
How many titles has he won since Robinson ( top 50 all time) got injured??????? Interesting how he hasn;t won squat since Robinson started missing 2/3 rds of each season.....and MVP of what? 2nd round playoff losses?????

ElCubano · May 5, 2003

I know stats shouldnt mean squat, but they do.......if thats the case MJ rules Kobe's ass period...I dont care if he may be better in the future or is better at his age then MJ was...thats ur opinion....when it comes down to who is the best with overall stats and not your opinions...who is the best???? I doubt it Kobe can add 2 billion market cap to any shoe company...

oh, thats not the stat you were looking for huh......but SHAQ would still be my numero uno pick.....I just wouldnt want him on the other team, try that for a stat...peace

TKOtrader · May 5, 2003

Quote from TM_Direct:

Just curious...how many NCAA titles did Duncan win durring his 4 years in school?
How many titles has he won since Robinson ( top 50 all time) got injured??????? Interesting how he hasn;t won squat since Robinson started missing 2/3 rds of each season.....and MVP of what? 2nd round playoff losses?????

MVP = Most Valuable Player

the most valuable player to their team i would have to say was garnett or mcgrady this year. take them 2 off their team and they suck !! period

TKOtrader · May 5, 2003

Quote from ElCubano:

I know stats shouldnt mean squat, but they do.......if thats the case MJ rules Kobe's ass period...I dont care if he may be better in the future or is better at his age then MJ was...thats ur opinion....when it comes down to who is the best with overall stats and not your opinions...who is the best???? I doubt it Kobe can add 2 billion market cap to any shoe company... oh, thats not the stat you were looking for huh......but SHAQ would still be my numero uno pick.....I just wouldnt want him on the other team, try that for a stat...peace

hey stat-boy, shouldnt you be out getting twisted.

it is cinco de mayo

Discipline · May 5, 2003

When are you all going to learn that the NBA is FIXED?

TKOtrader · May 6, 2003

LAKERS straight sucked last night. one of their worst games all season , especially kobe.

but..................... they only lost by 5pts.

so...................... i think san antonio is in trouble

OPTIONAL777 · May 6, 2003

Lakers got robbed by the refs tonight when Shaq fouled out.

No doubt that the refs will do all they can to make this go 7 games, and I expect the same with the Queen/Mavs series.

hapaboy · May 6, 2003

and better showcase the individual talents of the players?

I remember reading some time ago an article at a website, perhaps ESPN, that suggested things like instead of taking foul shots the fouled player went 1 on 1 against the guy who fouled him, raising the basket height, etc, etc.

Imagine instead of the boring free throws you suddenly get to see AI go up against Marbury, or TMac vs Kobe. How many times do you actually get to see those guys go at it one on one anyway? Not too often because usually they don't guard each other.

Hoops needs a shot in the arm and a way to invigorate the game.

ElCubano · May 6, 2003

Quote from hapaboy:

and better showcase the individual talents of the players?

I remember reading some time ago an article at a website, perhaps ESPN, that suggested things like instead of taking foul shots the fouled player went 1 on 1 against the guy who fouled him, raising the basket height, etc, etc.

Imagine instead of the boring free throws you suddenly get to see AI go up against Marbury, or TMac vs Kobe. How many times do you actually get to see those guys go at it one on one anyway? Not too often because usually they don't guard each other.

Hoops needs a shot in the arm and a way to invigorate the game.

I think the NBA needs nothing....very exciting sport, specially in the playoff's....Maybe you should try veiwing that new basket cage bouncing all over the place with helmets ball....now thats excitement....